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Topic #4578 23 posts Started by 95WRC
hey,
anyone interested in a 98 Celica Beams motor swap please email me ..

the nice BEAMS GAUGE CLUSTER IS ALSO AVAILABLE AS WELL..will not sell seperate unless buyer of motor passes on it..


I will have more details and pricing soon ..motor will be here in late AUG ..

kanji92@yahoo.com



thanks
derek

This post has been edited by 95WRC: Jul 14, 2003 - 4:15 PM

--95WRC+Jul 14, 2003 - 7:21 AM
QUOTE (95WRC @ Jul 14, 2003 - 7:21 AM)
hey,
anyone interested in a 98 Celica Beams motor swap please email me ..

the nice BEAMS GAUGE CLUSTER IS ALSO AVAILABLE AS WELL..will not sell seperate unless buyer of motor passes on it..


I will have more details and pricing soon ..motor will be here in late AUG ..

kanji92@yahoo.com

LOWBALLERS Don't waste you time email me ..

thanks
derek

If it's a complete clip... I'll offer quite a bit for it...
--95WRC+Jul 14, 2003 - 9:21 AM
QUOTE (95WRC @ Jul 14, 2003 - 9:21 AM)
hey,
anyone interested in a 98 Celica Beams motor swap please email me ..

the nice BEAMS GAUGE CLUSTER IS ALSO AVAILABLE AS WELL..will not sell seperate unless buyer of motor passes on it..


I will have more details and pricing soon ..motor will be here in late AUG ..

kanji92@yahoo.com

LOWBALLERS Don't waste you time email me ..

thanks
derek

complete like axles, tranny, ecu, wiring harness, engine, all the sensors, etc.?

1994 Lexus ES3001989 Supra Turbo1990 RHD ST185RC - JDM Spec
hey,
ok i was slightly misinformed by my supplier ..

i just got pix today ..

it is a motor , harness , ecu, and sensors ..motor has 96k or around 55,000miles

cluster my be available for sale seperately ..

has same mounting as 3sgte ..

i thought it had tranny but is does not .. for tranny you will need to use a
mr2 turbo or st185 or st205 tranny ..

make and offer and when i get my cost i will let anyone know ..

please email me with offers . will have pix posted very soon

thanks derek ..

BTW complete 98 mr2 BEAMS swap is also for sale on mr2 board.. it is a clip and has 28k miles .

This post has been edited by 95WRC: Jul 14, 2003 - 4:30 PM

--95WRC+Jul 14, 2003 - 12:43 PM
QUOTE (95WRC @ Jul 14, 2003 - 12:43 PM)
hey,
ok i was slightly misinformed by my supplier ..

i just got pix today ..

it is a motor , harness , ecu, and sensors ..motor has 96k or around 55,000miles

cluster my be available for sale seperately ..

has same mounting as 3sgte ..

i thought it had tranny but is does not .. for tranny you will need to use a
mr2 turbo or st185 or st205 tranny ..

make and offer and when i get my cost i will let anyone know ..

please email me with offers . will have pix posted very soon

thanks derek ..

BTW complete 98 mr2 BEAMS swap is also for sale on mr2 board.. it is a clip and has 28k miles .

pictures pls..
offer...give us a ballpark figure....so we don't throw you a lowball >biggrin.gif>
--95WRC+Jul 14, 2003 - 1:43 PM
QUOTE (95WRC @ Jul 14, 2003 - 1:43 PM)
hey,
ok i was slightly misinformed by my supplier ..

i just got pix today ..

it is a motor , harness , ecu, and sensors ..motor has 96k or around 55,000miles

cluster my be available for sale seperately ..

has same mounting as 3sgte ..

i thought it had tranny but is does not .. for tranny you will need to use a
mr2 turbo or st185 or st205 tranny ..

make and offer and when i get my cost i will let anyone know ..

please email me with offers . will have pix posted very soon

thanks derek ..

BTW complete 98 mr2 BEAMS swap is also for sale on mr2 board.. it is a clip and has 28k miles .

Um... no... a ST185 / ST205 tranny will not work for a FWD setup...

But like you said, the MR2 Turbo tranny should work... and so will a Solara tranny.
Beams engines are 3sge's with VVTI(valve lift and all that good stuff. I hate to say this, but it's Toyota's version of VTEC)

Jon
so this is a godo engine to do a swap with?
Yes, but less potential than the 3sgte. It'd got the neat looking valve cover though! >wiggle.gif>

95 Toyota Celica GTDead for now --> Soon to have a 3S-GTE02 WRX --> This is for speed- Borla Exhaust- TurboXS BOV- Custom CAI02 Civic EX- MB Quart Reference 5.25" Components- Rockford MTX 8" Subs in the doors- Alpine Type S Rear Fills- 2x Alpine SWR-1042D Subs in a custom fiberglass box- Alpine F345 Amp for the front doors- Alpine M605 on each Type R- Phoenix Gold wiring- Alpine CDA-9855 Head Unit- Alpine Amp link- 2x Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Caps- The best Viper 791 alarm install ever
you can use 3s-gte parts for it which would lower the compression thus making better for boost.
--GT2GT4+Jul 15, 2003 - 7:28 PM
QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ Jul 15, 2003 - 7:28 PM)
you can use 3s-gte parts for it which would lower the compression thus making better for boost.


I disagree... there are various differences b/w the Beams motor and a 3S-GTE. The main problem is compatibility in the electronics of the Beams, limitations in the crank design, *probably* with the oil coolers, etc. I know that alot of parts will swap over, but the internals of a 3S-GE cannot handle the same boost as a 3S-GTE. Besides being a pain and expensive to do, coverting a 3S-GE to a 3S-GTE (spec) is a high risk project; what I mean by this is that a 3S-GE will more than likely blow up, unless heavy modifications are done to the internals.

I believe the 3S-GTE will out perform a turbo'd Beams motor any day... especially a 3rd gen 3S-GTE...

This post has been edited by kuya1284: Jul 16, 2003 - 5:10 AM

--kuya1284+Jul 16, 2003 - 3:55 AM
QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Jul 16, 2003 - 3:55 AM)
--GT2GT4+Jul 15, 2003 - 7:28 PM
QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ Jul 15, 2003 - 7:28 PM)
you can use 3s-gte parts for it which would lower the compression thus making better for boost.


I disagree... there are various differences b/w the Beams motor and a 3S-GTE. The main problem is compatibility in the electronics of the Beams, limitations in the crank design, *probably* with the oil coolers, etc. I know that alot of parts will swap over, but the internals of a 3S-GE cannot handle the same boost as a 3S-GTE. Besides being a pain and expensive to do, coverting a 3S-GE to a 3S-GTE (spec) is a high risk project; what I mean by this is that a 3S-GE will more than likely blow up, unless heavy modifications are done to the internals.

I believe the 3S-GTE will out perform a turbo'd Beams motor any day... especially a 3rd gen 3S-GTE...

yes, and why deface such a rare engine to turbo it? if you want to boost, just get a 3sgte, don't mess up that beautiful motor. in the end it will cost way less to go 3sgte than to turbo a 3sge.

1994 Lexus ES3001989 Supra Turbo1990 RHD ST185RC - JDM Spec
I plan on going with the 3s-ge, turbo kinda just creates problems and you have to keep your oil really clean, which i'm not good at doing... Rivo was saying something about a supercharger for it. Besides with the 3s-gte you have to swap in the hood and bumper also for the clearence...
--Chrobis+Jul 17, 2003 - 7:31 PM
QUOTE (Chrobis @ Jul 17, 2003 - 7:31 PM)
I plan on going with the 3s-ge, turbo kinda just creates problems and you have to keep your oil really clean, which i'm not good at doing... Rivo was saying something about a supercharger for it. Besides with the 3s-gte you have to swap in the hood and bumper also for the clearence...

not the 2nd gen 3sgte, if you swap that in, and go with a FMIC, you'll be fine.

1994 Lexus ES3001989 Supra Turbo1990 RHD ST185RC - JDM Spec
How much of a power sacrifice would that be though?
Whats the power output on the Beams? What cars had this engine?
the ss-III, had the beams red top, 200hp. The beams engine also came in the altezza, black top with 210hp... not that far behind the 3s-gte.
--Chrobis+Jul 20, 2003 - 8:49 PM
QUOTE (Chrobis @ Jul 20, 2003 - 8:49 PM)
the ss-III, had the beams red top, 200hp. The beams engine also came in the altezza, black top with 210hp... not that far behind the 3s-gte.

And with just a (simple) boost controller, the 3s-gte will blow the 3s-ge out of the water. >wink.gif>

This post has been edited by kuya1284: Jul 21, 2003 - 1:58 AM
--kuya1284+Jul 16, 2003 - 8:55 PM
QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Jul 16, 2003 - 8:55 PM)
I believe the 3S-GTE will out perform a turbo'd Beams motor any day... especially a 3rd gen 3S-GTE...

er, not quite - check this out >smile.gif>


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This is from the Toyota Altezza (not lexus) TOMS 280T. It is the 3SGE BEAMS engine turboed. The 280 in the name stands for 280ps (about 277 hp).

It seems TOMS, TRD and TTE all took altezzas and produced small numbers of limited editions. The TTE version is superchanged and the TRD version is Turbocharged.

Reports from those lucky enough to own or have driven the TOMS 280T say the car is very quick with a lot of potential. Along with the turbo, TOMS also made modifications to the suspension, handling, weight, added a subtle body kit etc.

Mmmm, Turboed RWD 3S BEAMS, to my ears the only thing sweeter is 2JZ-GTE >biggrin.gif>
--neophile+Jul 20, 2003 - 10:32 PM
QUOTE (neophile @ Jul 20, 2003 - 10:32 PM)
--kuya1284+Jul 16, 2003 - 8:55 PM
QUOTE (kuya1284 @ Jul 16, 2003 - 8:55 PM)
I believe the 3S-GTE will out perform a turbo'd Beams motor any day... especially a 3rd gen 3S-GTE...

er, not quite - check this out >smile.gif>



Maybe I should have included "mod for mod", the 3s-gte will out perform a 3s-ge anyday... >wink.gif>
So this engine is a good swap choice without the hassle of the turbo stuff.... How much they cost? and where to get one? Were they ever released in the US?