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Topic #45677 184 posts Started by Dr_Tweak
All these swaps are estimated at twice if not 3 and 4 times what a 3SGTE swap is estimated at. Plus the troubleshooting you'll inevitably run into. Face it..the people that are interested in modifiying their celicas do not have this kinda money. What should be happening is figuring out how to make a swap cheaper!

I'll be in Savannah for that kick ass St. Patty's celebration ya'll throw...If you wanna drop a V8 in my celica while I'm down there have at it!

This post has been edited by InfamousChappy: Feb 26, 2007 - 11:47 PM
how bout i send you the celica, pay you $500 a month until i come up with enough money to do the supra swap? ha!

Chris MalaquiNon-running Celica
If Dr Tweak isn't making much on them, I think the price is reasonable. He has a shop were he can get stuff cheaper, like motors. On top of that, he will do the custom fabbing and most likely have an abundance of scrap metal, tools, and supplies to get the job done. If someone was going to make some money on it, it would have to cost more.

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Would the 1UZ bolt up to the AWD tranny? An AWD V8 would be sweet. how well would this motor respond to boosting? or is it more of a NA type motor like the 1MZ? would there even be room?(for a turbo)

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hmm, i want 4wd added to my 3sgte.

Yes just the 4wd as I have already built my 3s, how much would that be?
I don't know why people keep arguing the prices saying its gonna cost more. His prices are very reasonable. I do recall someone saying that the person who converted the black Celica in Florida to awd would charge $6,000 for the conversion. I believe that was without parts and only labor. Which is right around what Dr Tweak is charging if you add all parts needed. The shop that is doing 2jz swaps into S2000's are charging $15,000 for a complete swap all parts included. They've done 3 already.

I'd be thinking about going through with this sometime in the future. Its great to know theres a shop we can count on. 3 months is exactly what I was thinking the project would take.
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I don't know why people keep arguing the prices saying its gonna cost more. His prices are very reasonable. I do recall someone saying that the person who converted the black Celica in Florida to awd would charge $6,000 for the conversion. I believe that was without parts and only labor. Which is right around what Dr Tweak is charging if you add all parts needed. The shop that is doing 2jz swaps into S2000's are charging $15,000 for a complete swap all parts included. They've done 3 already.

I'd be thinking about going through with this sometime in the future. Its great to know theres a shop we can count on. 3 months is exactly what I was thinking the project would take.


don't you wonder WHY they charge 15,000 for a s2k 2jz swap.....that has a tranny tunnel and RWD already in it...a celica has NONE of these....which makes sense it should cost near 20 grand
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Would the 1UZ bolt up to the AWD tranny? An AWD V8 would be sweet. how well would this motor respond to boosting? or is it more of a NA type motor like the 1MZ? would there even be room?(for a turbo)

I've thought of the 1mzfe turbo and AWD before. But I was thinking of it in a st185. A V8 AWD would be pretty cool. I don't know how useful it would be at all, but still cool. Something to laugh about and wish you had. Not much fun as a daily driver I bet.

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V8 + AWD would equal something VERY heavy wouldn't it?

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how about you be the first one to do this in your own car, tweak? at the very least you would have a prototype for future swaps and it would generate more business for your other projects.


Because I don't have 12k to put into my Celica smile.gif


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1uz would be badass. one of the best v8's made. even though its an aluminum block, im guessing its still a relatively heavy engine and would throw off the balance.


Actually, the 1UZ is about 30 pounds lighter than a 3SGTE. (Not a typo).

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Would the 1UZ bolt up to the AWD tranny? An AWD V8 would be sweet. how well would this motor respond to boosting? or is it more of a NA type motor like the 1MZ? would there even be room?(for a turbo)


It's possible, and a great idea as well. A well-designed low-boost turbo system could definetely work on the 1UZ with great results.

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hmm, i want 4wd added to my 3sgte.

Yes just the 4wd as I have already built my 3s, how much would that be?


Is the 3S already in your car?

-Doc

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
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how about you be the first one to do this in your own car, tweak? at the very least you would have a prototype for future swaps and it would generate more business for your other projects.
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Because I don't have 12k to put into my Celica smile.gif


DOC YOU HAVE A CELICA?!?!?!?? thumbsup.gif i didnt know! lol

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How much for a RHD conversion? parts labor etc.
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how about you be the first one to do this in your own car, tweak? at the very least you would have a prototype for future swaps and it would generate more business for your other projects.


Because I don't have 12k to put into my Celica smile.gif


DOC YOU HAVE A CELICA?!?!?!?? thumbsup.gif i didnt know! lol


I picked up a 5th gen the other day, yeah wink.gif


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How much for a RHD conversion? parts labor etc.


Well a full, unmolested front-clip is like $3500 shipped. If you're already swapped, you can sell off the engine set for like $2000 or so. So $1500, plus say, $2000 for labor, and another $1000 or so of odds and ends. So under $5k.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Feb 28, 2007 - 6:26 PM

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
Of course the 3s is in my celica, its my daily driver, only have like 1,000 miles on the motor though...I dont drive much(made the motor back in august)
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Of course the 3s is in my celica, its my daily driver, only have like 1,000 miles on the motor though...I dont drive much(made the motor back in august)


I guess around... $8000 for everything to convert to AWD.

-Doc

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
is it possible to drop in a 350z engine in out car!?
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is it possible to drop in a 350z engine in out car!?


id rather have the 2grfse

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cool, but yea, as others said i think u should try it on your own car first.
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WHO'S UP?! biggrin.gif


Woah.......may be time for another project car! biggrin.gif
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Well a full, unmolested front-clip is like $3500 shipped. If you're already swapped, you can sell off the engine set for like $2000 or so. So $1500, plus say, $2000 for labor, and another $1000 or so of odds and ends. So under $5k.

-Doc


where are you finding a 3rd gen for 3500? everyone i see is +4500 frown.gif


1000 for odds and ends? you don't need anything "odds and ends" everything you need is included in the clip....except you'd have to MAYBE lengthen wiring harness which ~50$ maybe

so i'd like to know where 1000 comes from?
i mean i know i don't have to do as much stuff since i'm putting in a 3rd gen 3s.....but **** if you are putting in RHD you might as well just put the 3s that it came with in as well...
100% plug and play....

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 1, 2007 - 1:12 AM
odds and end often include: timing belt, water pump, gaskets, hoses, line, fittings, fasteners, fuilds, preventive maintnance parts, shop materials.

1000 is a resonable margin

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odds and end often include: timing belt, water pump, gaskets, hoses, line, fittings, fasteners, fuilds, preventive maintnance parts, shop materials.

1000 is a resonable margin


talking about a rhd swap....not a engine swap

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I don't know why people keep arguing the prices saying its gonna cost more. His prices are very reasonable. I do recall someone saying that the person who converted the black Celica in Florida to awd would charge $6,000 for the conversion. I believe that was without parts and only labor. Which is right around what Dr Tweak is charging if you add all parts needed. The shop that is doing 2jz swaps into S2000's are charging $15,000 for a complete swap all parts included. They've done 3 already.

I'd be thinking about going through with this sometime in the future. Its great to know theres a shop we can count on. 3 months is exactly what I was thinking the project would take.


don't you wonder WHY they charge 15,000 for a s2k 2jz swap.....that has a tranny tunnel and RWD already in it...a celica has NONE of these....which makes sense it should cost near 20 grand


Well, heres the thing. Those guys are looking to profit. Dr Tweak isn't looking to make a whole lot of money off of these projects. He's already said that. Those guys that are doing the 2jz swaps into the s2000's are looking to profit. Above that, people who own s2000's aren't poor like most of us Celica owners. There are plenty of 2jz and 1jz swaps done on oldschool Supra's that some shops charge $8000 parts included. Thats another price to compare. Dr Tweak wants to tackle these projects. So yeah, he's gonna give the one who steps up with their Celica a deal. He's not doing it to profit, he's doing it cause he wants to. Thats why his prices are what they are.
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is it possible to drop in a 350z engine in out car!?


Just as possible as the rest of these swaps, yeah. The VQ35 (350Z engine) has been put into the Sentra, which aren't any bigger than the Celica. However, as mentioned, I'd much rather do a 2GR.

-Doc

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
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I don't know why people keep arguing the prices saying its gonna cost more. His prices are very reasonable. I do recall someone saying that the person who converted the black Celica in Florida to awd would charge $6,000 for the conversion. I believe that was without parts and only labor. Which is right around what Dr Tweak is charging if you add all parts needed. The shop that is doing 2jz swaps into S2000's are charging $15,000 for a complete swap all parts included. They've done 3 already.

I'd be thinking about going through with this sometime in the future. Its great to know theres a shop we can count on. 3 months is exactly what I was thinking the project would take.


don't you wonder WHY they charge 15,000 for a s2k 2jz swap.....that has a tranny tunnel and RWD already in it...a celica has NONE of these....which makes sense it should cost near 20 grand


Well, heres the thing. Those guys are looking to profit. Dr Tweak isn't looking to make a whole lot of money off of these projects. He's already said that. Those guys that are doing the 2jz swaps into the s2000's are looking to profit. Above that, people who own s2000's aren't poor like most of us Celica owners. There are plenty of 2jz and 1jz swaps done on oldschool Supra's that some shops charge $8000 parts included. Thats another price to compare. Dr Tweak wants to tackle these projects. So yeah, he's gonna give the one who steps up with their Celica a deal. He's not doing it to profit, he's doing it cause he wants to. Thats why his prices are what they are.


ok older supras you are still missing my point about your examples.....
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>hat has a tranny tunnel and RWD already in it...a celica has NONE of these
you need to think WITHIN the same realm of cars

so go find out the price integra owners and civic owners are paying for RWD conversions + a motor that size AND THEN you will have a better idea.....
supras + s2k = apple
celicas = orange
u can't compare the two

but if tweak does it fully 100% working ZERO issues for the listed......more power to him smile.gif

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 1, 2007 - 3:42 PM
hell while were talking crazy swaps, why not just go balls out and swap a 1gzfe... a man can dream biggrin.gif

I think Bigfoot is blurry, that's the problem. It's not the photographer's fault. Bigfoot is blurry. And that's extra scary to me, because there's a large, out-of-focus monster roaming the countryside.
Well, maybe it's not that crazy, but I'd still like to see a plain old 3sge blacktop swap into a FWD GT. Ive heard of some people attempting it, but never seen one running, mostly because of wiring/electronics issues. Tweak, how much to get one of these running for me?
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I don't know why people keep arguing the prices saying its gonna cost more. His prices are very reasonable. I do recall someone saying that the person who converted the black Celica in Florida to awd would charge $6,000 for the conversion. I believe that was without parts and only labor. Which is right around what Dr Tweak is charging if you add all parts needed. The shop that is doing 2jz swaps into S2000's are charging $15,000 for a complete swap all parts included. They've done 3 already.

I'd be thinking about going through with this sometime in the future. Its great to know theres a shop we can count on. 3 months is exactly what I was thinking the project would take.


don't you wonder WHY they charge 15,000 for a s2k 2jz swap.....that has a tranny tunnel and RWD already in it...a celica has NONE of these....which makes sense it should cost near 20 grand


Well, heres the thing. Those guys are looking to profit. Dr Tweak isn't looking to make a whole lot of money off of these projects. He's already said that. Those guys that are doing the 2jz swaps into the s2000's are looking to profit. Above that, people who own s2000's aren't poor like most of us Celica owners. There are plenty of 2jz and 1jz swaps done on oldschool Supra's that some shops charge $8000 parts included. Thats another price to compare. Dr Tweak wants to tackle these projects. So yeah, he's gonna give the one who steps up with their Celica a deal. He's not doing it to profit, he's doing it cause he wants to. Thats why his prices are what they are.


ok older supras you are still missing my point about your examples.....


I got your point but you're not adding things up with what I'm saying. Doesn't matter anyways. He comes up with the numbers. If anyone wants to go through with it then they will.
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This post has been edited by Chanh55: Mar 2, 2007 - 1:36 PM
how about a 350??? is that a possibility for the celicas? what would some1 thing if they roled up next to a celica and just heard a 350 growl in their face!

This post has been edited by 2slow2nervous: Mar 1, 2007 - 4:34 PM