netrata

#31

Isn't there someone on this forum that runs a boosted 7afe? I remember he dynoed it, but I forgot the hp number he got. Anyways, IMO, don't invest into the 7afe,get a 4agze and boost that. But if you still think about keeping the 7afe and working with that, then get a 16v 4age head since it is much easier to find parts for the 16v. And I believe Nik did the 7afe block with 16v 4age head to make the 7age hybrid engine. You should contact him if it gives any interest to you.

This post has been edited by netrata: Oct 23, 2006 - 4:34 PM

trd94

#32

i have a 7afte and i plan on getting 200-250 hp with a f head i have it p&p already and i am running 9.5 psi on a t3-t4 57 trim i know i have not broke the 200+ hp yet but i dont have my 370cc injectors in yet or my emanage installed and tuned yet , i also have a water injection system i am tuning in along with a multi port nitorus system i will be running with a 35 shot at first , i know the pistons and rods are weak so i am going with the 4a pistons and i am trying to get some rods made at where i work , along with micro grooved bearings , i dont have a dyno sheet right know but i am working on the build through the winter and hopfully i will dyno around march or april ,and i will post the results .i know i should just put on the g head and i would get more hp but i want to see what a nice built 7afe can do ,just to be differant

Tom_T20

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i have a 7afte and i plan on getting 200-250 hp with a f head i have it p&p already and i am running 9.5 psi on a t3-t4 57 trim i know i have not broke the 200+ hp yet but i dont have my 370cc injectors in yet or my emanage installed and tuned yet , i also have a water injection system i am tuning in along with a multi port nitorus system i will be running with a 35 shot at first , i know the pistons and rods are weak so i am going with the 4a pistons and i am trying to get some rods made at where i work , along with micro grooved bearings , i dont have a dyno sheet right know but i am working on the build through the winter and hopfully i will dyno around march or april ,and i will post the results .i know i should just put on the g head and i would get more hp but i want to see what a nice built 7afe can do ,just to be differant

Do you have boost pressure at 9.5 psi with stock pistons and rods?

playr158

#34

a T3/T4 57 trim is too big for a 7afe...

trd94

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a T3/T4 57 trim is too big for a 7afe...

i dont have any problem with it i actually spool faster than my super 60 trim i had , the full specs are turbine is a 63, and the compressor is a 55, witch from what i was told makes it a 57 trim, i get boost at 2200rpm and full boost at 4700 rpm, my 60 trim would only give me boost at 2700rpm and full boost at 5200rpm , so i think the t3 -t4 is a little better than the t3 i had

trd94

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i have a 7afte and i plan on getting 200-250 hp with a f head i have it p&p already and i am running 9.5 psi on a t3-t4 57 trim i know i have not broke the 200+ hp yet but i dont have my 370cc injectors in yet or my emanage installed and tuned yet , i also have a water injection system i am tuning in along with a multi port nitorus system i will be running with a 35 shot at first , i know the pistons and rods are weak so i am going with the 4a pistons and i am trying to get some rods made at where i work , along with micro grooved bearings , i dont have a dyno sheet right know but i am working on the build through the winter and hopfully i will dyno around march or april ,and i will post the results .i know i should just put on the g head and i would get more hp but i want to see what a nice built 7afe can do ,just to be differant

Do you have boost pressure at 9.5 psi with stock pistons and rods?

yes that is on a stock bottom end the car only had 75000 mi on it when i got it it has close to 90000 now with over have being boosted , it handles the boost good and the water injection kit helps with detination, i just need something to help with timing

playr158

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yea full boost by 4700 when your red line is like 6?
thats "lag" 9psi that late wowz....my 1.8T is getting 17psi by 3,000

your turbo just a little big lols, but hey if you like it thats all that matters! rock on

trd94

#38

well thanks for the reply

Tom_T20

#39

I found a 4age from a MR2, is there an "how-to" swap the G head on 7afe block?


This post has been edited by Tom_T20: Jul 6, 2007 - 12:00 PM

Culpable04

#40

There is no actual How to.. as many thing can change depending n what 4AGE you use, but read this Nik"s project and it may give you an idea of what to do. For a more detailed info about 7AGE go to some corrola forums. there is one with excellent info about this, but I can't recall the web address right now.

Tom_T20

#41

why are 4age and 7afe head gaskets different?

Tom_T20

#42

4AGE:


7AFE:


I'm going to use a 4AGE 16v found in an MR2 MK I
(1985 - 1989), smallport i think...

REDDRAGONCELI

#43

hey try this out they have a setup for the 7afe www.gude.com whole head and internals including high performance cams u can get it assembled for about $1250 this place is out of Florida but give them a call and see what they can do for u i think they even give u a bigger throttle body

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Tom_T20

#44

i live in italy.... florida is too far....

normality78

#45

im running 7AFTE with 220hp on engine. but i do not know am i fit to say FE is still good for street daily driving.

Tom_T20

#46

ok, my 4AGE has TVIS... which manifold will i have to use?

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trd94

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im running 7AFTE with 220hp on engine. but i do not know am i fit to say FE is still good for street daily driving.

220hp on a 7afte, what psi are you running and what type of management for the fuel and timming? i hit 207 with 94 pump gas and a safc, timming retarded 4 degrees, and 14psi on a t3-t4.

Culpable04

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im running 7AFTE with 220hp on engine. but i do not know am i fit to say FE is still good for street daily driving.

220hp on a 7afte, what psi are you running and what type of management for the fuel and timming? i hit 207 with 94 pump gas and a safc, timming retarded 4 degrees, and 14psi on a t3-t4.

you and him may be around the same power out put, not that he said 220 on engine, and I'm almost sure your HPs are measure at the wheels right ?


if yours are measure on engine, then I was wrong

Tom_T20

#49

will this work on a 7age/7agte setup?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MEGASQUIRT-...sspagenameZWDVW

Tom_T20

#50

i need a list of all what i need to do my 7agte project.
thanks to all

Tom_T20

#51

what about an ITB from a 20v 4age?

Tom_T20

#52

nobody can help me?

Culpable04

#53

there is no step by step how to.. on this. you have to do a lot of research and collect all the info you need.

there are a few discussions about that hybrid engine, read thru them and see what applies to your set-up. also try some other sites related to corollas, levin and old MR2s. is all about the research.

trd94

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im running 7AFTE with 220hp on engine. but i do not know am i fit to say FE is still good for street daily driving.

220hp on a 7afte, what psi are you running and what type of management for the fuel and timming? i hit 207 with 94 pump gas and a safc, timming retarded 4 degrees, and 14psi on a t3-t4.

you and him may be around the same power out put, not that he said 220 on engine, and I'm almost sure your HPs are measure at the wheels right ?


if yours are measure on engine, then I was wrong

mine was at the wheel, my bad i did not see where he said on motor

Tom_T20

#55

i looked around, and i'll do that on a single step

i'm planning to eliminate t-vis and egr, and to use an ITB from a 20v 4age... is that possible?

Tom_T20

#56

i have some doubts...

then.... how to fit the alternator and the air conditioner pump? they have differnt locations on the two engines!!

the alternator is in the rear of the 4age, and it have no air conditioner, 7afe has also a "steering oil pump".. i'll take pics, but i need some help!

thanks

nik

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>i have some doubts...

then.... how to fit the alternator and the air conditioner pump? they have differnt locations on the two engines!!

the alternator is in the rear of the 4age, and it have no air conditioner, 7afe has also a "steering oil pump".. i'll take pics, but i need some help!

thanks

go check out my build thread on my 7agte

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...1831&st=240

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Kwanza26

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>why are 4age and 7afe head gaskets different?

The gaskets are different because the water ports and the way the engine is fed coolant is different. The water jackets on the block will line up however, but the difference is in the head, the 7AFE and 4AG 20V's won't that big rear jacket (theirs is external). You can run any intake set-up from any 4AG you want... the most difficult being ITBs and the least being a stock 4AG intake manifold. The best head, IMO, is a 20V head. The least desired, a bigport (TVIS) 4AG head.

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