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Gt-Four vs. CBR 600RR - 6G Celicas Forums
That was a cool vid but....
That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
He did not leave the line right, missed 2nd gear, and let off half way thourgh 3rd after the celica cut in the middle of the road. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better. That bike with a good rider would not loose i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike and it would not be getting the lead from the start either. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad. Tuffy did get the kill on that race, but a good bike rider would not go down like that!
This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 18, 2006 - 4:20 PM
That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
He did not leave the line right, missed 2nd gear, and let off half way thourgh 3rd after the celica cut in the middle of the road. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better. That bike with a good rider would not loose i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike and it would not be getting the lead from the start either. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad. Tuffy did get the kill on that race, but a good bike rider would not go down like that!
This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 18, 2006 - 4:20 PM
hey tufy, may i drive your car?
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DG_Performance I read your post. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39330&st=20
I would like to say that the biker was not smooth or very experienced, but the Celica had too much power for that CBR600. I like bikes its just that that bike and that car combination even with a seasoned veteran cyclist would have not produced a win for the CBR in my opinion. I not trying to give you a hard time. I just wanted to respond to your thoughts.
1. That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
Looks like around 175 - 190lbs to me.
2. He (biker) did not leave the line right.
We dont get the opportunity to view pre-launch rpm for the CBR or the Celica. I agree the biker should be definitely pulling the front wheel in 1st and 2nd gear shifts. He did however, appear to leaning with his chest on the fuel tank.
3. (biker) missed 2nd gear.
Sounds like he didnt let off the throttle between shifts. Not smooth.
4. (Biker) let off half way through 3rd.
The Celica is still pulling away from the CBR at this time.
5. after the celica cut in the middle of the road.
The Celica has several lengths on the CBR at that time. The Biker knew that he could even match the Celica, let alone beat it. There are trees beside the road. The move both toward the center to clear the trees. The CBR isnt being cut off. Look more like zoom lens distortion. Most footage in zoom/ telephoto looks make vehicle looks closer than without zoom.
6. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better.
I think most know that a CBR 600 would absolutely kill a stock USDM Celica GT or ST or even a stock JDM Celica.
7. That bike with a good rider would not loose.
I respect your opinion. I dont agree.
8. i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock.
9. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike
In another thread Tufy beat a 1000bhp Supra. There is an earlier vid. of this race also. Four wheel drive can really do surprisingly well against many higher powered vehicles. http://www.rateyourgarage.com/1050bhpSupra...0bhpGt-Four.MOV
10. and it would not be getting the lead from the start either.
The Celica is about 2500lbs and has 400 plus bhp four wheel drive. The Celica has the advantage.
I have ridden in a 400bhp 2400lb car and could beat all makes of 700cc bikes with only rear wheel drive. I completely think he could do this on a regular basis.
11. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad.
I personally dont think you sound anti Tufy at all.
12. Tuffy did get the kill on that race,
Yeah and it was fun to watch.
13. but a good bike rider would not go down like that!
Again, I respect your opinion. I dont agree.
Best Regards
Yellow94GT
QUOTE(DG_Performance @ Jul 18, 2006 - 5:17 PM) [snapback]457860[/snapback]
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That was a cool vid but....
That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
He did not leave the line right, missed 2nd gear, and let off half way thourgh 3rd after the celica cut in the middle of the road. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better. That bike with a good rider would not loose i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike and it would not be getting the lead from the start either. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad. Tuffy did get the kill on that race, but a good bike rider would not go down like that!
That was a cool vid but....
That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
He did not leave the line right, missed 2nd gear, and let off half way thourgh 3rd after the celica cut in the middle of the road. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better. That bike with a good rider would not loose i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike and it would not be getting the lead from the start either. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad. Tuffy did get the kill on that race, but a good bike rider would not go down like that!
DG_Performance I read your post. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39330&st=20
I would like to say that the biker was not smooth or very experienced, but the Celica had too much power for that CBR600. I like bikes its just that that bike and that car combination even with a seasoned veteran cyclist would have not produced a win for the CBR in my opinion. I not trying to give you a hard time. I just wanted to respond to your thoughts.
1. That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
Looks like around 175 - 190lbs to me.
2. He (biker) did not leave the line right.
We dont get the opportunity to view pre-launch rpm for the CBR or the Celica. I agree the biker should be definitely pulling the front wheel in 1st and 2nd gear shifts. He did however, appear to leaning with his chest on the fuel tank.
3. (biker) missed 2nd gear.
Sounds like he didnt let off the throttle between shifts. Not smooth.
4. (Biker) let off half way through 3rd.
The Celica is still pulling away from the CBR at this time.
5. after the celica cut in the middle of the road.
The Celica has several lengths on the CBR at that time. The Biker knew that he could even match the Celica, let alone beat it. There are trees beside the road. The move both toward the center to clear the trees. The CBR isnt being cut off. Look more like zoom lens distortion. Most footage in zoom/ telephoto looks make vehicle looks closer than without zoom.
6. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better.
I think most know that a CBR 600 would absolutely kill a stock USDM Celica GT or ST or even a stock JDM Celica.
7. That bike with a good rider would not loose.
I respect your opinion. I dont agree.
8. i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock.
9. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike
In another thread Tufy beat a 1000bhp Supra. There is an earlier vid. of this race also. Four wheel drive can really do surprisingly well against many higher powered vehicles. http://www.rateyourgarage.com/1050bhpSupra...0bhpGt-Four.MOV
10. and it would not be getting the lead from the start either.
The Celica is about 2500lbs and has 400 plus bhp four wheel drive. The Celica has the advantage.
I have ridden in a 400bhp 2400lb car and could beat all makes of 700cc bikes with only rear wheel drive. I completely think he could do this on a regular basis.
11. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad.
I personally dont think you sound anti Tufy at all.
12. Tuffy did get the kill on that race,
Yeah and it was fun to watch.
13. but a good bike rider would not go down like that!
Again, I respect your opinion. I dont agree.
Best Regards
Yellow94GT
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I love the pre-race conversation. I enjoyed the vid.
Yellow94GT
QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 18, 2006 - 2:11 AM) [snapback]457531[/snapback]
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http://rapidshare.de/files/25535826/celica_cbr600.wmv.html
http://www.hemenpaylas.com/download/116618...cbr600.wmv.html
ok guys here is the story of the race...
i went to this cbr guy and offered a race.
here is converisation:
tufy: do you want to race with me.
guy: which one is yours
tufy: red one
guy: (looked arround) and which bike?
tufy: not bike the red car
guy: did you ever raced with a bike? i passed many ferraries with my bike..
tufy: we will see no proplem for me if you pass me..
guy: do you have nos
tufy: nope
guy: ok then
http://rapidshare.de/files/25535826/celica_cbr600.wmv.html
http://www.hemenpaylas.com/download/116618...cbr600.wmv.html
ok guys here is the story of the race...
i went to this cbr guy and offered a race.
here is converisation:
tufy: do you want to race with me.
guy: which one is yours
tufy: red one
guy: (looked arround) and which bike?
tufy: not bike the red car
guy: did you ever raced with a bike? i passed many ferraries with my bike..
tufy: we will see no proplem for me if you pass me..
guy: do you have nos
tufy: nope
guy: ok then
I love the pre-race conversation. I enjoyed the vid.
Yellow94GT
damn tufy you took out a highly modded supra too ??? Your my new HERO !!!! 
"To Protect And To Serve The Wealthy" -POLICE
damn, just look at tuffy's mod list, holy sh!t, agreed tufy is one of the faster guys on here, where is cyprus? thats in new zealand?
Amazing, I love your car lol. You're going to have a folder on my computer with all the videos.
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It would have been different if the Supra didnt have 1050hp. A lot of people think omfg 1000+hp Supra! But numbers that high are just that, numbers. Tons of turbo lag when you have that much power. Still a nice win though lol.
This post has been edited by WH95TE: Jul 19, 2006 - 12:58 AM
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QUOTE(Remy @ Jul 18, 2006 - 8:55 PM) [snapback]457950[/snapback]
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damn tufy you took out a highly modded supra too ??? Your my new HERO !!!!
damn tufy you took out a highly modded supra too ??? Your my new HERO !!!!
It would have been different if the Supra didnt have 1050hp. A lot of people think omfg 1000+hp Supra! But numbers that high are just that, numbers. Tons of turbo lag when you have that much power. Still a nice win though lol.
This post has been edited by WH95TE: Jul 19, 2006 - 12:58 AM
kadett
i dont have a track time yet... but my car should be arround low 11's with 1.4 bars boost. i am planning to boost higher at dragster next week (1.6 seems ok) after checking a/f ratio with my 850cc sards.. shame that i still dont have my hks 1000cc's.
lets say bike coulnd lunch.. and coulnt shift 2nd gear. ( its 1.5 cars behind me now)
what about. between 100-200 kmph that i passed him at least 5 cars at the end..
i heard same words after i raced with 1050bhp supra. they said guy doesnt know how to drive
i am not a profesional driver at all.. but this time at bike race i had advantage of my new shift light and higher rev limit 
an other guy with 900bhp m3 with nos offered me race for 1000 usd... this time i ll make a good investigation about the driver before i race
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 2:56 AM
i dont have a track time yet... but my car should be arround low 11's with 1.4 bars boost. i am planning to boost higher at dragster next week (1.6 seems ok) after checking a/f ratio with my 850cc sards.. shame that i still dont have my hks 1000cc's.
lets say bike coulnd lunch.. and coulnt shift 2nd gear. ( its 1.5 cars behind me now)
what about. between 100-200 kmph that i passed him at least 5 cars at the end..
i heard same words after i raced with 1050bhp supra. they said guy doesnt know how to drive
i am not a profesional driver at all.. but this time at bike race i had advantage of my new shift light and higher rev limit an other guy with 900bhp m3 with nos offered me race for 1000 usd... this time i ll make a good investigation about the driver before i race
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 2:56 AM
Even if the Supra did know how to drive, its just too much power. If he had less hp it would have been more of a race lol.
Keep us updated with the m3, that would be interesting.
Keep us updated with the m3, that would be interesting.
Having seen Tufy's car on the Dyno last month, I can vouch that the car is sick. The car has an immence amount of power. Everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a 4wd car with probably one of the best 4wd transmission ever built (TORSEN from TORque SENsor)
Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.
Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.
Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.
Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.
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how do you figure that? If it's properly tuned and so forth and he obviously knows what he is doing... i dont see him losing to many if any lower hp supras.... Good job tufy
QUOTE(WH95TE @ Jul 19, 2006 - 2:28 AM) [snapback]458029[/snapback]
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Even if the Supra did know how to drive, its just too much power. If he had less hp it would have been more of a race lol.
Keep us updated with the m3, that would be interesting.
Even if the Supra did know how to drive, its just too much power. If he had less hp it would have been more of a race lol.
Keep us updated with the m3, that would be interesting.
how do you figure that? If it's properly tuned and so forth and he obviously knows what he is doing... i dont see him losing to many if any lower hp supras.... Good job tufy
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neoklis....
Don't worry man... i dont drive fast, i just fly low
i already have after market suspentions. for now transmission seems ok. i dont know whats going to be with higher boost. i have some future plans for gearbox. but its not the next step. next is brakes to stop this monster....
p.s. flying was just a joke i drive slowly and i dont push my car so much. i drag race 1-2 times a month only
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 7:46 AM
QUOTE(neoklis @ Jul 19, 2006 - 10:59 AM) [snapback]458059[/snapback]
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Having seen Tufy's car on the Dyno last month, I can vouch that the car is sick. The car has an immence amount of power. Everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a 4wd car with probably one of the best 4wd transmission ever built (TORSEN from TORque SENsor)
Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.
Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.
Having seen Tufy's car on the Dyno last month, I can vouch that the car is sick. The car has an immence amount of power. Everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a 4wd car with probably one of the best 4wd transmission ever built (TORSEN from TORque SENsor)
Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.
Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.
neoklis....
Don't worry man... i dont drive fast, i just fly low
i already have after market suspentions. for now transmission seems ok. i dont know whats going to be with higher boost. i have some future plans for gearbox. but its not the next step. next is brakes to stop this monster....
p.s. flying was just a joke i drive slowly and i dont push my car so much. i drag race 1-2 times a month only
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 7:46 AM
Nice job on toasting that bike. You're car is amazing
I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.
I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.
Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight
Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71
Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94
Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.
I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.
I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.
Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight
Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71
Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94
Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.
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here is some times that i take from www. dragtimes.com
time------speed
10.942---125.190--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Dustin
11.339---126.540--honda CBR 600RR 2003 bryan
11.440---120.200--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Nick
i think cbr 600rr is not that fast.. my car should be arround 11 sec.. that is so close to cbr 600.
not to be even closer to me should be cbr drivers fault. but its not his fault that he coulnt pass me..
edit: i am sorry if dustin, bryan and nick doesnt know how to drive too..
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 9:23 AM
QUOTE(Jeremy1210 @ Jul 19, 2006 - 1:02 PM) [snapback]458077[/snapback]
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Nice job on toasting that bike. You're car is amazing
I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.
I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.
Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight
Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71
Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94
Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.
Nice job on toasting that bike. You're car is amazing
I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.
I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.
Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight
Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71
Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94
Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.
here is some times that i take from www. dragtimes.com
time------speed
10.942---125.190--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Dustin
11.339---126.540--honda CBR 600RR 2003 bryan
11.440---120.200--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Nick
i think cbr 600rr is not that fast.. my car should be arround 11 sec.. that is so close to cbr 600.
not to be even closer to me should be cbr drivers fault. but its not his fault that he coulnt pass me..
edit: i am sorry if dustin, bryan and nick doesnt know how to drive too..
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 9:23 AM
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You got that mixed up... only time 2wd has advantage on 4wd is on a roll and definitely not off the line
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Tuffy your car is amazing and this quote goes into my signature
Just out of curiosity, IF YOU HAD TO how much would you sell your car for ?
QUOTE(Jeremy1210 @ Jul 19, 2006 - 8:02 AM) [snapback]458077[/snapback]
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I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.
I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.
You got that mixed up... only time 2wd has advantage on 4wd is on a roll and definitely not off the line
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QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 19, 2006 - 7:40 AM) [snapback]458074[/snapback]
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i dont drive fast, i just fly low
i dont drive fast, i just fly low
Tuffy your car is amazing and this quote goes into my signature Just out of curiosity, IF YOU HAD TO how much would you sell your car for ?
QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 19, 2006 - 7:40 AM) [snapback]458074[/snapback]i dont drive fast, i just fly low
DG_Performance I read your post. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39330&st=20
I would like to say that the biker was not smooth or very experienced, but the Celica had too much power for that CBR600. I like bikes its just that that bike and that car combination even with a seasoned veteran cyclist would have not produced a win for the CBR in my opinion. I not trying to give you a hard time. I just wanted to respond to your thoughts.
Again, I respect your opinion. I dont agree. [/u]
Best Regards
Yellow94GT
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I also respect your opinion and will continue to stick with my own.
I have owned 4 streetbikes and know for a fact... that car should not have beat that bike..... (especially that bad)! Even tuffy says a few post later the 600's are running high tens and he should be close to low elevens which means he is saying he is close to being as fast as those 600 bike times but he dont think he is hitting those times yet. So when he goes to the track and runs a better time than the bike times you can pm me and tell me i was wrong.
I hope i am proved wrong .... but i highly highly doubt that will happen!!
I would like to say that the biker was not smooth or very experienced, but the Celica had too much power for that CBR600. I like bikes its just that that bike and that car combination even with a seasoned veteran cyclist would have not produced a win for the CBR in my opinion. I not trying to give you a hard time. I just wanted to respond to your thoughts.
Again, I respect your opinion. I dont agree. [/u]
Best Regards
Yellow94GT
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I also respect your opinion and will continue to stick with my own.
I have owned 4 streetbikes and know for a fact... that car should not have beat that bike..... (especially that bad)! Even tuffy says a few post later the 600's are running high tens and he should be close to low elevens which means he is saying he is close to being as fast as those 600 bike times but he dont think he is hitting those times yet. So when he goes to the track and runs a better time than the bike times you can pm me and tell me i was wrong.
I hope i am proved wrong .... but i highly highly doubt that will happen!!
The point of the fact is that the bike rider was sure he'd win as he stated to Tufy that he's beaten Ferraris before.
Bike rider thought he'd win hands down & he got beat fair & square!!!!
Well done Tufy. All bike riders are gay anyway with a fetish for wearing tight leather clothes
A lot of drag racing is driver skill. There is a member on the OC in England that can run low 12's in his GT4 & it's almost stock.
It's all in the technique. Thats what I tell the girls anyway
Rich
This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 21, 2006 - 4:35 PM
Bike rider thought he'd win hands down & he got beat fair & square!!!!
Well done Tufy. All bike riders are gay anyway with a fetish for wearing tight leather clothes
A lot of drag racing is driver skill. There is a member on the OC in England that can run low 12's in his GT4 & it's almost stock.
It's all in the technique. Thats what I tell the girls anyway
Rich
This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 21, 2006 - 4:35 PM
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A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.
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he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 5:03 AM
QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Jul 22, 2006 - 9:58 AM) [snapback]459419[/snapback]
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A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.
A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.
he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 5:03 AM
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Those numbers say alot to me. Is the GT4 of alex a Red WRC? Did he make the website www.st205.net If so a Dutch member has bought his car a few months ago!
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he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.
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QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Jul 22, 2006 - 9:58 AM) [snapback]459419[/snapback]
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A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.
A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.
he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.
Those numbers say alot to me. Is the GT4 of alex a Red WRC? Did he make the website www.st205.net If so a Dutch member has bought his car a few months ago!
JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
nope.. this is a black gt four. i just checked his profile. he has serius modifications.. i cant say slightly modified. but its still 350 bhp. i dont know why. (magic has 320 bhp with stock turbo and stock internals)
here is link to his car
http://www.gt4oc.net/owners/owners_page.php?owner=62
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 6:22 AM
here is link to his car
http://www.gt4oc.net/owners/owners_page.php?owner=62
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 6:22 AM
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Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:
for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.
PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.
Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...
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www.st205.net was made by a great friend of mine, a really special person I met in October 2005 at the Ring.... Dan Johnson !
Bye.
QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 22, 2006 - 11:59 AM) [snapback]459420[/snapback]
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he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
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QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Jul 22, 2006 - 9:58 AM) [snapback]459419[/snapback]
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A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.
A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.
he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:
for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.
PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.
Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...
++++
www.st205.net was made by a great friend of mine, a really special person I met in October 2005 at the Ring.... Dan Johnson !
Bye.
Wolf_Tm(Parma;Italy) [Silat-Kali]Celica Gt-Four ST205Snowy White [full TTE/WRC/custom hw home built 3SGTE - 2.34kg/hp DynoDynamics]http://www.facebook.com/wolf.tmhttp://www.youtube.com/WolfTm250PS:You have to know that your Dynojet Whp are false,and closer to other dynos FW hp. Please specify what dyno are your Whp from.
Well then it is Dan Jonhson who sold his car to someone here in the Netherlands.
JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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He sold his car to Ibz & then Ibz sold his car to the fella in Holland
Rich
QUOTE(Kadett @ Jul 22, 2006 - 2:47 PM) [snapback]459439[/snapback]
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Well then it is Dan Jonhson who sold his car to someone here in the Netherlands.
Well then it is Dan Jonhson who sold his car to someone here in the Netherlands.
He sold his car to Ibz & then Ibz sold his car to the fella in Holland
Rich
I want more booooooooooooooooooosthttp://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/712135richygt4@hotmail.co.uk
Here you go. This is the midly tuned Celica I was talking about:
http://www.tengoku-racing.com/phpBB2/viewt...der=asc&start=0
Runs constant mid 12's
There is a thread on the OC forum, but I don't know how to post up the link lol
Rich
This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:12 AM
http://www.tengoku-racing.com/phpBB2/viewt...der=asc&start=0
Runs constant mid 12's
There is a thread on the OC forum, but I don't know how to post up the link lol
Rich
This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:12 AM
I want more booooooooooooooooooosthttp://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/712135richygt4@hotmail.co.uk
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magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:39 AM
QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Jul 22, 2006 - 2:39 PM) [snapback]459437[/snapback]
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Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:
for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.
PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.
Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...
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QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 22, 2006 - 11:59 AM) [snapback]459420[/snapback]
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QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Jul 22, 2006 - 9:58 AM) [snapback]459419[/snapback]
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Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:
for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.
PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.
Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...
magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....
This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:39 AM
The thread on the GT4OC forum is in the 'Off topic discussion' section & the title is 'anyone smell a great launch'
Non members can access this section too
Enjoy the read
Rich
Non members can access this section too
Enjoy the read
Rich
I want more booooooooooooooooooosthttp://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/712135richygt4@hotmail.co.uk
Wow. Very nice tufy, I wanna see you hit up some Ferraris now... haha. I'm not sure if anyone else rehosted the file yet, but I put it on youtube a lot easier to view. I just uploaded it so it may take a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKTAxehcuhE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKTAxehcuhE
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Sorry,
I need to explain better then...
Dinojet's WHEEL HP are 20% more than real.
Just reporting from an EVO forum:
" We all just need to be clear that Dynojet numbers ARE NOT ACTUAL WHP NUMBERS. If anything the numbers a Dynojet spits out are more closely related to flywheel numbers.
Before anyone opens their mouth to argue the point, the inventor, designer, originator of the Dynojet openly stated this a few months back in 3 major automotive magazines. I actually quoted what he had to say here.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com "
QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 22, 2006 - 6:20 PM) [snapback]459496[/snapback]
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magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....
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QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Jul 22, 2006 - 2:39 PM) [snapback]459437[/snapback]
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Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:
for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.
PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.
Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...
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QUOTE(tufy @ Jul 22, 2006 - 11:59 AM) [snapback]459420[/snapback]
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QUOTE(Wolf_tm @ Jul 22, 2006 - 9:58 AM) [snapback]459419[/snapback]
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Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:
for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.
PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.
Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...
magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....
Sorry,
I need to explain better then...
Dinojet's WHEEL HP are 20% more than real.
Just reporting from an EVO forum:
" We all just need to be clear that Dynojet numbers ARE NOT ACTUAL WHP NUMBERS. If anything the numbers a Dynojet spits out are more closely related to flywheel numbers.
Before anyone opens their mouth to argue the point, the inventor, designer, originator of the Dynojet openly stated this a few months back in 3 major automotive magazines. I actually quoted what he had to say here.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com "
Wolf_Tm(Parma;Italy) [Silat-Kali]Celica Gt-Four ST205Snowy White [full TTE/WRC/custom hw home built 3SGTE - 2.34kg/hp DynoDynamics]http://www.facebook.com/wolf.tmhttp://www.youtube.com/WolfTm250PS:You have to know that your Dynojet Whp are false,and closer to other dynos FW hp. Please specify what dyno are your Whp from.