have u checked to make sure that your Rims are not bent?
Keep warping rotors, im really frustrated! - 6G Celicas Forums
Rims not bent. I haven't checked the pedal freeplay but I think it is fine. I can
move it a little before it starts braking.
move it a little before it starts braking.
So today I have been really pissed of since i picked up my Celica at Toyota. They were going to replace hub and bearing. First thing when i came there they said that they had broke my abs sensor at the right wheel. 
Damn, that thing costs $184!! And guess who gotta pay??! Me!! 
I took the Celi out for a test drive and it feels a bit better, but i was not happy. I drove right back to the dealer and said that i was not very happy now. One mechanic came with me in the car, he drove and i think he liked it 
Anyway, he said the rotor was warped so there goes $92 again! I'm getting a new abs sensor and a new rotor on monday so i'll se how the Celi will be after that.. 
Damn, that thing costs $184!! And guess who gotta pay??! Me!! I took the Celi out for a test drive and it feels a bit better, but i was not happy. I drove right back to the dealer and said that i was not very happy now. One mechanic came with me in the car, he drove and i think he liked it Anyway, he said the rotor was warped so there goes $92 again! I'm getting a new abs sensor and a new rotor on monday so i'll se how the Celi will be after that..
If they broke your ABS sensor make them pay for it. If they give you any trouble tell the manager that you should not have to pay for their mechanics incompetence, and that you could have done it yourself without breaking it. That is B.S. that they would make you pay for that.
BTW nopi has Brembo rotors for $21 ea. for the rears and $27 ea. for the fronts.
BTW nopi has Brembo rotors for $21 ea. for the rears and $27 ea. for the fronts.
Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete...
They are not paying for it, they said that they had to remove the sensor and it was impossible to take it out without breaking it..Are brembos good?
the only thing with nooopi is their shipping is realllllll slow. but yeah 21 bux is a hella deal and brembos are solid
you always get them trimmed, find the cheapest place. no higher than $30 a side.
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this is a load of crap, DO NOT pay for the sensor, all the tech had to do was remove 3 10mm bolts and
unplug the sensor from up top to avoid breaking it.
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They are not paying for it, they said that they had to remove the sensor and it was impossible to take it out without breaking it..Are brembos good?
They are not paying for it, they said that they had to remove the sensor and it was impossible to take it out without breaking it..Are brembos good?
this is a load of crap, DO NOT pay for the sensor, all the tech had to do was remove 3 10mm bolts and
unplug the sensor from up top to avoid breaking it.
I agree, if they broke it they pay!
show them the removal process from a manual and argue that they didnt follow it and did it their way...if you got proof that it can be removed without breaking it then they should be liable.
Okay, I have talked to a couple mechanics and they drove my car a bit. They tell me it is the hub that is bent/warped. What do you thinK?
sounds like i was right about the hub and bearing...mr. suspension knows allot 
did u ever get in an accident and hit the side of the car or was it ever in an accident before you owned it? i had a similar case where i hit a curb, mechanics fixed what they saw, in the end they forgot the hub, it was bent and caused squeeking brakes and warped rotors..a simple test i did to make sure of this problem is:
1) jack that side
2) take off tire
3) put lugs on the spindle
4) hold a pencil up to rotor with a spare jack stand
5) have someone hold pencil
6) rotate the rotor
7) if the pencil marking skips during the rotation its bent
8) replace hub and bearing
9) do the happy joy joy dance and a sigh of relief
did u ever get in an accident and hit the side of the car or was it ever in an accident before you owned it? i had a similar case where i hit a curb, mechanics fixed what they saw, in the end they forgot the hub, it was bent and caused squeeking brakes and warped rotors..a simple test i did to make sure of this problem is:
1) jack that side
2) take off tire
3) put lugs on the spindle
4) hold a pencil up to rotor with a spare jack stand
5) have someone hold pencil
6) rotate the rotor
7) if the pencil marking skips during the rotation its bent
8) replace hub and bearing
9) do the happy joy joy dance and a sigh of relief
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Is it necessary to replace the wheelbearing too? It costs $ 360!
Thanks for the help, I'll try the pencil ting afterwards
Dunno if the car was in a accident before I owned it, but someone told me that if
the brakes got really hot just one time, the heat could warp the hub.
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>mr. suspension knows allot
Lol! Is it necessary to replace the wheelbearing too? It costs $ 360!
Thanks for the help, I'll try the pencil ting afterwards
Dunno if the car was in a accident before I owned it, but someone told me that if
the brakes got really hot just one time, the heat could warp the hub.
most dealerships wont sell just a bearing without a hub
you can get timken bearings from autozone. thats whats in my front wheels and they roll just fine. ive not really heard anything bad about them.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
Did the pencil trick on the rotor and hub, look what the result was:
So this is
..But I'm more like 
because now I know what
the problem is, but can it be something else than the hub/bearing?
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You were right again LewFX, I called Toyota today and they are going to replace both the hub and the bearing. No separate parts. Oh well, best to have it fixed right away.
So this is
..But I'm more like because now I know what the problem is, but can it be something else than the hub/bearing?
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>most dealerships wont sell just a bearing without a hub
You were right again LewFX, I called Toyota today and they are going to replace both the hub and the bearing. No separate parts. Oh well, best to have it fixed right away.
if you keep warping rotors....are you sure your not just unknowingly riding your brakes?
looks almost like mine before i got it fixed, trim the rotors again, sand the pads down a lil (or replace) and replace the hub and bearing
did you do a happy dance?
This post has been edited by LewFX: Jun 20, 2006 - 12:58 PM
did you do a happy dance?
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Not yet, I have to save step 9. I'll do one when the machanics have replaced hub and bearing. I'll even tape the dance for you,
good enough?
Oh, btw thanks for all the help!
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>did you do a happy dance?
Not yet, I have to save step 9. I'll do one when the machanics have replaced hub and bearing. I'll even tape the dance for you,
good enough?
Oh, btw thanks for all the help!
one other quick check you can do is check pedal free height and free play. if the pedal is over adjusted
it can cause the brakes to drag. free height is checked using a ruler, held next to and perpendicular to the
part you put your foot on, measure to the highest point on the ruler that the pedal reaches (without touching the pedal), try to make sure the ruler is touching the metal behind the carpet. here is a picture, look at page six of the br section.
note the specs are for a g35. i seem to have lost my dam chilton, so if anyone can post the specs thatd be great
http://www.g35frenzy.com/downloads/2004/04...manual/F/br.pdf
pedal free play is checked using the same set up, but wiggle the pedal up and down WITHOUT pushing
the brake booster. if there is no free play then the pedal is overadjusted.
it can cause the brakes to drag. free height is checked using a ruler, held next to and perpendicular to the
part you put your foot on, measure to the highest point on the ruler that the pedal reaches (without touching the pedal), try to make sure the ruler is touching the metal behind the carpet. here is a picture, look at page six of the br section.
note the specs are for a g35. i seem to have lost my dam chilton, so if anyone can post the specs thatd be great
http://www.g35frenzy.com/downloads/2004/04...manual/F/br.pdf
pedal free play is checked using the same set up, but wiggle the pedal up and down WITHOUT pushing
the brake booster. if there is no free play then the pedal is overadjusted.
have u checked to make sure that your Rims are not bent?
Rims not bent. I haven't checked the pedal freeplay but I think it is fine. I can
move it a little before it starts braking.
move it a little before it starts braking.
So today I have been really pissed of since i picked up my Celica at Toyota. They were going to replace hub and bearing. First thing when i came there they said that they had broke my abs sensor at the right wheel. Damn, that thing costs $184!! And guess who gotta pay??! Me!! I took the Celi out for a test drive and it feels a bit better, but i was not happy. I drove right back to the dealer and said that i was not very happy now. One mechanic came with me in the car, he drove and i think he liked it Anyway, he said the rotor was warped so there goes $92 again! I'm getting a new abs sensor and a new rotor on monday so i'll se how the Celi will be after that..
Damn, that thing costs $184!! And guess who gotta pay??! Me!! I took the Celi out for a test drive and it feels a bit better, but i was not happy. I drove right back to the dealer and said that i was not very happy now. One mechanic came with me in the car, he drove and i think he liked it Anyway, he said the rotor was warped so there goes $92 again! I'm getting a new abs sensor and a new rotor on monday so i'll se how the Celi will be after that..
If they broke your ABS sensor make them pay for it. If they give you any trouble tell the manager that you should not have to pay for their mechanics incompetence, and that you could have done it yourself without breaking it. That is B.S. that they would make you pay for that.
BTW nopi has Brembo rotors for $21 ea. for the rears and $27 ea. for the fronts.
BTW nopi has Brembo rotors for $21 ea. for the rears and $27 ea. for the fronts.
Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete...
They are not paying for it, they said that they had to remove the sensor and it was impossible to take it out without breaking it..Are brembos good?
the only thing with nooopi is their shipping is realllllll slow. but yeah 21 bux is a hella deal and brembos are solid
you always get them trimmed, find the cheapest place. no higher than $30 a side.
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this is a load of crap, DO NOT pay for the sensor, all the tech had to do was remove 3 10mm bolts and
unplug the sensor from up top to avoid breaking it.
QUOTE(eliaz @ Jul 1, 2006 - 3:45 AM) [snapback]450953[/snapback]
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They are not paying for it, they said that they had to remove the sensor and it was impossible to take it out without breaking it..Are brembos good?
They are not paying for it, they said that they had to remove the sensor and it was impossible to take it out without breaking it..Are brembos good?
this is a load of crap, DO NOT pay for the sensor, all the tech had to do was remove 3 10mm bolts and
unplug the sensor from up top to avoid breaking it.
I agree, if they broke it they pay!
show them the removal process from a manual and argue that they didnt follow it and did it their way...if you got proof that it can be removed without breaking it then they should be liable.