pure_dx

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this is the first time i've seen the the throttle body pipe go directly into the turbo like this



is there suppose to be no intercooler or something? cuz most of the time you would connect the piping of the throttle body to the intercooler, but wassup with this 5sfe? is this how you're suppose to turbo a 5sfe?

This post has been edited by pure_dx: Apr 20, 2006 - 2:17 PM

lagos

#2

you NEED an intercooler. just because somone was dumb enough to run the pipe right in, dosnt mean its right.

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Aaagogo

#3

if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project.

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Supersprynt

#4

The detonation on that car must be horrible.

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playr158

#5

motor go BOOOOOOOM......

Clipsetuner

#6

That'd be a 5th gen owner for ya!

DTE

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dustinkemp

#7

now i know thats not right!

like playr said "motor go boom"

lagos

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if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project.

just because somone says that on the internet, dosnt mean its true.

not to mention, that most turbo cars have a very hard time running just 7-8psi. you would need a very small exhaust to keep the boost that low.

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presure2

#9

thats just not a good idea.
period.
end of disscussion.

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devilsden97

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thats just not a good idea.
period.
end of disscussion.

P2 has spoken

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Silver94CelicaOwner

#11

Thats a photo of the old Burien Toyota 5SFE turbo kit. Now with what we know about turboing that motor, that kit is so overpriced and half-assed that its completely not worth it.

Always run an intercooler on a boosted motor....I would NEVER chance it like that, even on a low-boost application.

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Aaagogo

#12

i see i see, thanx lagos

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QUOTE(Aaagogo @ Apr 20, 2006 - 3:32 PM) [snapback]424072[/snapback]

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if it's under 8psi or less, you don't really need an intercooler, i've read that somewhere while researching for my initial 5sfte project.

just because somone says that on the internet, dosnt mean its true.

not to mention, that most turbo cars have a very hard time running just 7-8psi. you would need a very small exhaust to keep the boost that low.

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tufy

#13

the cooler air to engine means is more power on flywheel..
this engine will over heat and blow up head gasget

vsideboy

#14

wow, you've got big degrees C going into that motor.

You gotta feel sorry for it.

NuclearHappineS

#15

it won't last

i know first hand

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swerve

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this is the first time i've seen the the throttle body pipe go directly into the turbo like this



is there suppose to be no intercooler or something? cuz most of the time you would connect the piping of the throttle body to the intercooler, but wassup with this 5sfe? is this how you're suppose to turbo a 5sfe?

Generally it is not a good idea to run without an intercooler due to detonation. If you are trying to see if you can get away without one, you will on low boost (up to 5psi). As a general rule detonation occurs around 110 degrees celcius. If you intake temp is below 110, you don't HAVE to cool the air first, but it always a good idea. I was running 4.5psi on the 5s-fe, with a rising rate fuel reg and no intercooler with no problems.

lagos

#17

how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?

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swerve

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how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?

It was actually an electric supercharger. Wasn't happy with it so it was only in for 3 months

lagos

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how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?

It was actually an electric supercharger. Wasn't happy with it so it was only in for 3 months

your kidding, right?

telling people that you were running a boosted motor with no intercooler and had no issues, when in fact you had an electric fan connected to your intake, is a little missleading dont you think?

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ice23q

#20

I ran my 5sfte with no cooler for about 18 months....8psi.....nice....
then i got greedy and went to 10psi and ka-boom.....melted a piston.....

mine you it did go hard but not for long.........hehehe... Ask celica ZR how it went.....hehehe

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playr158

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how do you run 4psi? what turbo was this on?

It was actually an electric supercharger. Wasn't happy with it so it was only in for 3 months

rjbibeau

#22

i don't have an intercooler on my setup. 7psi and lower you don't need one.

CheesyLobster

#23

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i don't have an intercooler on my setup. 7psi and lower you don't need one.

i have to disagree and say that well you may get away with that for a while, it's just not a good idea. i'd get an ic asap.

OOBE

#24

I have a 3.4 PSI spring on my Tial and that's what I ran for the first week on the Celi. Anyway, yeah...you need an intercooler...compressed air means hotter air. It's funny how a few years ago we didn't know jack and saw that Burien kit like the pimpest thing and now we laugh at it and run better setups!

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