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Topic #35907 13 posts Started by GT4WRC
Finally got round to plumbing in the oil cooler today.

I utilized a spare cooler I had from a Rover T16 motor from a 220 GTi...
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A waxstat was employed to ensure that the oil only went through the cooler when it hit 80 deg C..
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The waxstat comes with a simple mounting bracket. I used existing holes in the bulkhead below the headlamp and secured with M10 nuts and bolts..
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This shows the waxstat fitted and hoses connected. Not a lot of room!
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And the other ends connected to the cooler core...
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And the view from underneath...
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The hose take off adapter was fitted next...
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And the hoses were fitted to complete the 'circuit'..
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Once all done, the engine was refilled and then cranked over with the main ignition lead disconnected to ensure oil pressure was safely reached. Once done, motor was fired and and connections checked for any leaks. Once satisfied, a spin round the block showed all to be okay.
Gary

1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list
yo thats pretty gangster. Good write up

To live, is to sufferTo survive, thats to find meaning, in the suffering....
quick question. can that waxstat be used with a trans cooler too?

2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
What is the benefit of the waxstat not letting any oil through below 90°C?

Spec to be found on my website....
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quick question. can that waxstat be used with a trans cooler too?


Quck reply. Why?

1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list
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What is the benefit of the waxstat not letting any oil through below 90°C?


Optimum operating temperature. No cooler (or an inefficent one compared to power output) will potentially see the oil temp increase to levels where the oil will start to break down.
Run oil though a cooler full time and the oil has the potential not to reach it's operating temperature. That way, the oil remains 'thicker' and doesn't work as it should.
A waxstat is a good way of ensuring the the oil reaches its temp and ensuring that it doesn't get overcooked.
Gary

1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list
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quick question. can that waxstat be used with a trans cooler too?


Quck reply. Why?

because on the hottest days of summer when i have th AC on my trans begins to shift somewhat sloppily. changing the fluid helped some but when its 90+F out and the AC is on the trans fluid cooler cant dump enough heat into the radiator fluid to keep it shifting smoothly. i was thinking about adding a small trans cooler but i dont want it to lower the trans fluid below operating temp in the winter (-5 isnt that uncommon around chicagoland). so thats why i want to know, the low temperatures are whats stopping me from doing it.

i cant seem to find one for sale, where did you buy that one?

This post has been edited by Bitter: Apr 9, 2006 - 8:49 PM

2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
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This post has been edited by Wolf_tm: Apr 14, 2006 - 1:12 AM

Wolf_Tm(Parma;Italy) [Silat-Kali]Celica Gt-Four ST205Snowy White [full TTE/WRC/custom hw home built 3SGTE - 2.34kg/hp DynoDynamics]http://www.facebook.com/wolf.tmhttp://www.youtube.com/WolfTm250PS:You have to know that your Dynojet Whp are false,and closer to other dynos FW hp. Please specify what dyno are your Whp from.
nice write-up...very helpful...maybe i'll do this once i upgrade a few things biggrin.gif

bboy

..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi..
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Better if you even remove all the plugs, to have no pressure that push the rod bearing against the shaft pin with oil at zero pressure, when the piston is reaching TDC... wink.gif




You are getting all confused with this false information. The engine wasn't brand new. It had simply unergone an oil change. If you are trying to say that you need to do that every time you change your oil laugh.gif


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Did you port the sandwich adapter ?
If you didn't... you HAVE to...
Believe me... or you will have big loss of flow and pressure when oil will be hot.

Bye.


Please enlighten me with evidence as to why this is necessary. Take into consideration, before you reply, that the adapter plate is manufactured by one of the world's leading producers of this type of equipment and it is used in road and race cars worldwide. Are you saying that the plate that Mocal produces is a load of rubbish and unsuitable as standard?
Gary

1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list
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This post has been edited by Wolf_tm: Apr 14, 2006 - 1:13 AM

Wolf_Tm(Parma;Italy) [Silat-Kali]Celica Gt-Four ST205Snowy White [full TTE/WRC/custom hw home built 3SGTE - 2.34kg/hp DynoDynamics]http://www.facebook.com/wolf.tmhttp://www.youtube.com/WolfTm250PS:You have to know that your Dynojet Whp are false,and closer to other dynos FW hp. Please specify what dyno are your Whp from.
Well, having owned many cars over the years and having done numerous oil changes, as have many other people out there that I know, I have never ever heard of anyone removing the spark plugs and cranking the motor over after a simple oil filter renewal. And that includes professional mechanics.
Okay, there may well be a theoretical arguement, but theory is often not a reason to change practice. And it certainly doesn't offer any proof to back up your 'arguement'. I can just see all the GT-Four owners out there going to such great lengths by removing the WAI unit to get to the spark plugs each time they change their oil and filter laugh.gif

Neither does your sandwich plate post. Perhaps your one was a 'one off' which missed being caught in the quality control process. Mine was absolutely fine. And as for never using 90 deg elbows, you may wish to also tell many others out there who use the same on their cars without any issues.

Just because it is 'written in a book' or 'posetd on the internet' does not mean that it is correct. wink.gif

Gary

1994 ST205 Celica GT-FOUR Group A WRC - running in new engine1993 Rover 220 GTi tarmac rally car (under construction) 3SGE power here we come....GT-Four spec list