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just gotta look in the right place daniel son
http://www.japanparts.com/db/partslist.php...&maker=&volkey=

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Cool thank you.. Idk how I didn't find it.. all I kept seeing was the strut bars..

Hmm suspension mods! Can they be used with uhh GCs and Konis?

yes
they can be used with any 6th gen celica suspension

so what did you all decide with the bearing? does it only matter if you have springs? I am just wondering if I need to get something like that too...

I ordered them so they should be on the way.. just realized that one of my tires is bald on the front now and that scares me... :-(

Looks like mine came in today according to DHL.. we'll see when I get home...

nice, oh and just pick up some bearing grease and grease the top of the spring before you install it (be generous) that will preven the binding!

good luck

did you attempt to get the car realigned after installing the new suspension? chances are the pillowball mounts were not needed to achieve the type of alignment you would want. Usually pillowball mounts are best used for quick onsite adjustments and are not necessarily needed to achive a proper alignment.

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just because they are "fixed and NON adjustable" doesnt mean they cant be set, you can use the play in the bolts between the knuckle and damper to "adjust" the camber. my MR2 has the same fixed rear layout and when i reinstalled my driverside rear suspension i maxed the camber out to ~4 degrees negative camber... the other side was set to 1.5. whenever you loosen/remove these bolts you should get the alignment fixed.

yeah, i don't plan to use it for quick adjustment.. I just need to get them aligned since my airbags have it off by like -4 degrees. i just hope these will allow for that much adjustment..

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Including SuperStrut?

Anyways I was looking at getting solid pillow ball upper mounts, but I"ve been told that the ride quality suffers (it becomes significantly harsher) and also the clunking noises get to you after a while.

Any comments on these two points?

Well I got the cusco's on last night and had it aligned today.. still -3.5* off on the front.. so I gained 1* from those things.. I wish it was more..

so whats the next way to align these bags??

Anyone with bags have pointers???

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yes they can be used with super strut..(after all you are ordering a st205 suspension piece to work with the at200 in jaws4god's case)

w000t!!!!!1 i am so glad i found this thread. thank you 6gc. ordered.

just adding my unofficial statement it's not topic exactly topic related but someone may miss that information here:

tein coilovers GST86-B1SS4 (with upper mounts) applicable on:
ST202 (JDM SS-II)
ST202 (European GT)
ST202 (European Convertible)
ST204 (US/CND GT-S)


tein coilovers DSL36-KUSS2 (w/o upper mounts) applicable on:
ST202 (JDM SS-I)
ST203 (JDM SS-I)
ST202 (JDM Convertible)
ST203 (JDM Convertible)
>>AT200 (European ST) - my one>>
AT200 > (US/CND ST)
ST204 (US/CND GT)
ST204 (US Convertible)

now... I have decided put my money to prove my theory:

''although GST86-B1SS4 kit is for ST202s only it will fit on my AT200 as well because it's just DSL36-KUSS2 kit with upper mounts''

tein coilovers DSL36-KUSS2 (w/o upper mounts) applicable on:
ST202 (JDM SS-I)
ST203 (JDM SS-I)
ST202 (JDM Convertible)
ST203 (JDM Convertible)
AT200 (European ST) - my one
AT200 > (US/CND ST)
ST204 (US/CND GT)
ST204c (US Convertible) <- it's actually ST204c .



So help me understand, what is the difference between the ST204c which makes the GST86-B1SS4 kit non compatible with the ST204c (US convertibles) on the list? The DSL36-KUSS2 set I have on my Celica currently was listed for an AT200 model, which would mean that if the GST86-B1SS4 kit fits your AT200, then theoretically, the GST86-B1SS4 kit would fit on the ST204c models then as well I believe.

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according EPC there are two groups of mcperson suspension. Common (or let's say ''basic'') and ''sport package'' one. I do not why they have different part numbers... I have checked what model has what suspension and created list above. That means my AT200 has the same part number for shocks as ST204c. And according to TEIN parts list should be used DSL36-KUSS2 (kit w/o upper mounts). All US ''sport package'' models has the same part number for shocks as JDM 3SGE models... for JDM 3SGE models TEIN recommends using GST86-B1SS4 (kit with upper mounts)... So I have asked some people about celica stock suspension. Everyone I have asked said: "all mcperson shocks for 6gen celis are compatible... you can use both on your car". That's why I have ordered GST86-B1SS4 not DSL36-KUSS2 kit for me to prove it... I'll post everything when I have them home in special topic. End of story for now

So from what i've read, these will raise the height of your ride about an inch or so (or could just be the settling in stage..didn't see any confirmation) But would these be okay if i were to install them with KYB shocks w/ tein springs? Can anyone confirm if they keep the risen height?

The advantage of pillow ball mounts is nothing to do with being able to set camber, thats just an unrelated feature thats added on some pillow ball mounts.

The goodness of them is in the name, the pillow ball! your stock mounts are rubber, and allow the strut to move around under impact, good for comfort, bad for locating the strut and directing the loads to where they should go.

using a bearing keeps the suspension geometry more stable during cornering, allowing your springs/struts to work more effectivly.

if your using coilovers stock rubber mounts essentially become a wobbly joint between the suspension and the car, if you've ever driven a car with worn suspension bushes then you'll get the idea.