what did you do to the beast???
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yes correctly, so I dont know why it runs crappy at 10, and I had the tech look at it.
it runs pretty nice where I have it right now, but darn, I dont have money to throw into it right now to give the ignition a tune-up...($60 denso's could have gone into cap-rotor....)
Lewfx-nothing, i have only driven it about 4 times around the block.........
This post has been edited by 95celgt: Apr 25, 2006 - 12:12 AM
QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 24, 2006 - 11:33 PM) [snapback]426054[/snapback]
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you probably have a boost leak or something
running advanced timing on a turbo motor is probably the worst thing you could do.
are you setting the timing correctly? do u have the car warmed up and in diagnostic mode 1st?
how do you know the wires, cap and rotor are fine? how did you test them ?
you probably have a boost leak or something
running advanced timing on a turbo motor is probably the worst thing you could do.
are you setting the timing correctly? do u have the car warmed up and in diagnostic mode 1st?
how do you know the wires, cap and rotor are fine? how did you test them ?
yes correctly, so I dont know why it runs crappy at 10, and I had the tech look at it.
it runs pretty nice where I have it right now, but darn, I dont have money to throw into it right now to give the ignition a tune-up...($60 denso's could have gone into cap-rotor....)
Lewfx-nothing, i have only driven it about 4 times around the block.........
This post has been edited by 95celgt: Apr 25, 2006 - 12:12 AM
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Stock gap is .032.
http://www.twosrus.com/catalog/product_inf...products_id=220
QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 17, 2006 - 11:47 PM) [snapback]422668[/snapback]
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gap should be
.8mm or .031in
gap should be
.8mm or .031in
Stock gap is .032.
http://www.twosrus.com/catalog/product_inf...products_id=220
Cool, I noticed the Breather filter attatched to the "crankcase vent"(pipe coming out of valvecover that would connect to the stock intake) is NOTHING but a Chimney(saturated and leaks oil, once car is warm it burns it and smoke coming out into the cabin(cluster and footwells) and also visible coming out of the hood when oil lands on block....)
any idea how to fix that, car also smokes ALOT through the muffler for a few seconds every now and then, then COMpletely stops...
Well I dont have the timing gun anymore so i'm taking it to the dyno to get it done and see the fuel curve and such...
any idea how to fix that, car also smokes ALOT through the muffler for a few seconds every now and then, then COMpletely stops...
Well I dont have the timing gun anymore so i'm taking it to the dyno to get it done and see the fuel curve and such...
i still dont understand why people use breather filters on there.. that pcv line from the valve cover has to be hooked up to the air intake.
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it came like that lagos:P
but even then, it shouldnt let oil flow out right?! should I try replacing the pvc valve?
but even then, it shouldnt let oil flow out right?! should I try replacing the pvc valve?
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you need to start reading up more about this engine. sign up to mr2oc.com and just start reading every post.
there is no pcv valve on this engine. all you need to do is hook that up to the intake.
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it came like that lagos:P
but even then, it shouldnt let oil flow out right?! should I try replacing the pvc valve?
it came like that lagos:P
but even then, it shouldnt let oil flow out right?! should I try replacing the pvc valve?
you need to start reading up more about this engine. sign up to mr2oc.com and just start reading every post.
there is no pcv valve on this engine. all you need to do is hook that up to the intake.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Whats wrong with using a breather? Ive read of alot of ppl using breathers, and it doesn't hurt anything over on mr2oc.
Mine doesn't spit out oil out of my breather that I am using, I am using a breather because I am using the line that goes to the intake for the breather for my bypass valve.
If your spitting out that much oil than probably something else is wrong.
QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 26, 2006 - 3:25 AM) [snapback]426519[/snapback]
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i still dont understand why people use breather filters on there.. that pcv line from the valve cover has to be hooked up to the air intake.
i still dont understand why people use breather filters on there.. that pcv line from the valve cover has to be hooked up to the air intake.
Whats wrong with using a breather? Ive read of alot of ppl using breathers, and it doesn't hurt anything over on mr2oc.
Mine doesn't spit out oil out of my breather that I am using, I am using a breather because I am using the line that goes to the intake for the breather for my bypass valve.
If your spitting out that much oil than probably something else is wrong.
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you can't argue with BGB
QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Apr 25, 2006 - 1:52 PM) [snapback]426270[/snapback]
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Stock gap is .032.
http://www.twosrus.com/catalog/product_inf...products_id=220
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QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 17, 2006 - 11:47 PM) [snapback]422668[/snapback]
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gap should be
.8mm or .031in
gap should be
.8mm or .031in
Stock gap is .032.
http://www.twosrus.com/catalog/product_inf...products_id=220
you can't argue with BGB
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just because many people do it that way, dosnt mean they are doing something right. the pcv system is designed to be under vac at all times. you also loose vac by having that vented, and that can make your idle crappy or your car not run right. i know of a few people who had some major smoking issues from their car because they used a breather filter on there.
the main thing to remember, is that you gain NOTHING by using a breather on there. its just a gehtto way hook up your pcv system, when you run out of ports on your intake. take the time to do it right.
QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Apr 26, 2006 - 1:53 PM) [snapback]426770[/snapback]
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Whats wrong with using a breather? Ive read of alot of ppl using breathers, and it doesn't hurt anything over on mr2oc.
Mine doesn't spit out oil out of my breather that I am using, I am using a breather because I am using the line that goes to the intake for the breather for my bypass valve.
If your spitting out that much oil than probably something else is wrong.
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QUOTE(lagos @ Apr 26, 2006 - 3:25 AM) [snapback]426519[/snapback]
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i still dont understand why people use breather filters on there.. that pcv line from the valve cover has to be hooked up to the air intake.
i still dont understand why people use breather filters on there.. that pcv line from the valve cover has to be hooked up to the air intake.
Whats wrong with using a breather? Ive read of alot of ppl using breathers, and it doesn't hurt anything over on mr2oc.
Mine doesn't spit out oil out of my breather that I am using, I am using a breather because I am using the line that goes to the intake for the breather for my bypass valve.
If your spitting out that much oil than probably something else is wrong.
just because many people do it that way, dosnt mean they are doing something right. the pcv system is designed to be under vac at all times. you also loose vac by having that vented, and that can make your idle crappy or your car not run right. i know of a few people who had some major smoking issues from their car because they used a breather filter on there.
the main thing to remember, is that you gain NOTHING by using a breather on there. its just a gehtto way hook up your pcv system, when you run out of ports on your intake. take the time to do it right.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
I don't have crappy idle or vac, I run 20 vac all day long and idle right at 900-1000 rpm's without fluctuation.
If you search mr2oc for this, you will see that venting the crankcase vent back into the intake is just a form of emissions control. As long as you don't leave the tube that goes to the intake un plugged it will not do any harm.
If you search mr2oc for this, you will see that venting the crankcase vent back into the intake is just a form of emissions control. As long as you don't leave the tube that goes to the intake un plugged it will not do any harm.
better yet.....get a catch can 
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Yea that is another way,
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=9404...=crankcase+vent
another,
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=145394&page=1&pp=30
and another,
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=1594...=crankcase+vent
QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 26, 2006 - 8:29 PM) [snapback]426837[/snapback]
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better yet.....get a catch can
better yet.....get a catch can
Yea that is another way,
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=9404...=crankcase+vent
another,
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=145394&page=1&pp=30
and another,
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=1594...=crankcase+vent
I would listen to Lagos. Tee off your intake line so you can hook up your BPV AND your PCV. I'll wager that your smoking issues will disappear. My swap had the same problem... Lagos is correct. Why don't you just try it and see what happens? It would probably be wise to take the advice of people that know what they are talking about. The PCV should be under VAC at all times... pure and simple.
The car has become undrivable from all the smoke in the cabin, which made me ill driving it 5 miles today, so im gonna fix this today...
Thanks for all the input I have taken my time to read all of the threads on mr2oc and this is what I picked up:
The oil flowing out through the breather is part of blow-by, putting it into the intake will make the intake, turbo, and IC piping coated with oil, so I will need to clean it from time to time.
So best meathod IMO would be to put it into the exhaust, but I will end up plumbing it into the intake regardless for time's sake.
Thanks for all the input I have taken my time to read all of the threads on mr2oc and this is what I picked up:
The oil flowing out through the breather is part of blow-by, putting it into the intake will make the intake, turbo, and IC piping coated with oil, so I will need to clean it from time to time.
So best meathod IMO would be to put it into the exhaust, but I will end up plumbing it into the intake regardless for time's sake.
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Playr already mentioned it but that is exactly what a catch can is for.
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I've never heard of plumbing your pcv to your exhaust before. Having hot expanding gases traveling into your crankcase is counter productive considering the nature of the PCV.
QUOTE(95celgt @ Apr 26, 2006 - 7:14 PM) [snapback]426920[/snapback]
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The car has become undrivable from all the smoke in the cabin, which made me ill driving it 5 miles today, so im gonna fix this today...
Thanks for all the input I have taken my time to read all of the threads on mr2oc and this is what I picked up:
The oil flowing out through the breather is part of blow-by, putting it into the intake will make the intake, turbo, and IC piping coated with oil, so I will need to clean it from time to time.
The car has become undrivable from all the smoke in the cabin, which made me ill driving it 5 miles today, so im gonna fix this today...
Thanks for all the input I have taken my time to read all of the threads on mr2oc and this is what I picked up:
The oil flowing out through the breather is part of blow-by, putting it into the intake will make the intake, turbo, and IC piping coated with oil, so I will need to clean it from time to time.
Playr already mentioned it but that is exactly what a catch can is for.
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QUOTE(95celgt @ Apr 26, 2006 - 7:14 PM) [snapback]426920[/snapback]
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So best meathod IMO would be to put it into the exhaust, but I will end up plumbing it into the intake regardless for time's sake.
So best meathod IMO would be to put it into the exhaust, but I will end up plumbing it into the intake regardless for time's sake.
I've never heard of plumbing your pcv to your exhaust before. Having hot expanding gases traveling into your crankcase is counter productive considering the nature of the PCV.
Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete...
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actually having your PCV routed very close to the end of your exhaust out by the muffler is a great way to have it done...there is a full thing over on mr2oc about it...
look the PCV routing
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=1453...ght=PCV+exhaust <----part1
This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 26, 2006 - 9:38 PM
QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Apr 26, 2006 - 10:31 PM) [snapback]426994[/snapback]
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Playr already mentioned it but that is exactly what a catch can is for.
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I've never heard of plumbing your pcv to your exhaust before. Having hot expanding gases traveling into your crankcase is counter productive considering the nature of the PCV.
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QUOTE(95celgt @ Apr 26, 2006 - 7:14 PM) [snapback]426920[/snapback]
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The car has become undrivable from all the smoke in the cabin, which made me ill driving it 5 miles today, so im gonna fix this today...
Thanks for all the input I have taken my time to read all of the threads on mr2oc and this is what I picked up:
The oil flowing out through the breather is part of blow-by, putting it into the intake will make the intake, turbo, and IC piping coated with oil, so I will need to clean it from time to time.
The car has become undrivable from all the smoke in the cabin, which made me ill driving it 5 miles today, so im gonna fix this today...
Thanks for all the input I have taken my time to read all of the threads on mr2oc and this is what I picked up:
The oil flowing out through the breather is part of blow-by, putting it into the intake will make the intake, turbo, and IC piping coated with oil, so I will need to clean it from time to time.
Playr already mentioned it but that is exactly what a catch can is for.
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QUOTE(95celgt @ Apr 26, 2006 - 7:14 PM) [snapback]426920[/snapback]
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So best meathod IMO would be to put it into the exhaust, but I will end up plumbing it into the intake regardless for time's sake.
So best meathod IMO would be to put it into the exhaust, but I will end up plumbing it into the intake regardless for time's sake.
I've never heard of plumbing your pcv to your exhaust before. Having hot expanding gases traveling into your crankcase is counter productive considering the nature of the PCV.
actually having your PCV routed very close to the end of your exhaust out by the muffler is a great way to have it done...there is a full thing over on mr2oc about it...
look the PCV routinghttp://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=1453...ght=PCV+exhaust <----part1
This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 26, 2006 - 9:38 PM
Isn't a catch can a whole lot easier in our case though. We'd have to run a hose clear to the end of the car to do it that way.
Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete...
or you could just hook it up the way toyota did it an not have any problems with it ever again
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
LOL @ Lagos
I finished running a hose to the Intake, man was that breather a cup of oil!! no more self-intoxication!!!
Car feels better before boost as well, THANKS LAGOS!
yup-I read on mr2oc that a catch can isnt all that effective...
Ill check the intake tomorrow for oil build up...
only thing i notice is my idle went from 1K to 1800...
I finished running a hose to the Intake, man was that breather a cup of oil!! no more self-intoxication!!!
Car feels better before boost as well, THANKS LAGOS!
yup-I read on mr2oc that a catch can isnt all that effective...
Ill check the intake tomorrow for oil build up...
only thing i notice is my idle went from 1K to 1800...
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The crankcase vent is not a vacuum, it releases exhaust gases from the crank case. If you read the posts that I linked to, you will see bill explain how the crankcase vent works.
QUOTE(Doge @ Apr 26, 2006 - 11:20 PM) [snapback]426898[/snapback]
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I would listen to Lagos. Tee off your intake line so you can hook up your BPV AND your PCV. I'll wager that your smoking issues will disappear. My swap had the same problem... Lagos is correct. Why don't you just try it and see what happens? It would probably be wise to take the advice of people that know what they are talking about. The PCV should be under VAC at all times... pure and simple.
I would listen to Lagos. Tee off your intake line so you can hook up your BPV AND your PCV. I'll wager that your smoking issues will disappear. My swap had the same problem... Lagos is correct. Why don't you just try it and see what happens? It would probably be wise to take the advice of people that know what they are talking about. The PCV should be under VAC at all times... pure and simple.
The crankcase vent is not a vacuum, it releases exhaust gases from the crank case. If you read the posts that I linked to, you will see bill explain how the crankcase vent works.
The crankcase is not a vacuum... but the intake is. The air is getting SUCKED into the engine. The hoses connected to the intake are also gettting that 'suck'.
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yep
QUOTE(Doge @ Apr 27, 2006 - 12:30 PM) [snapback]427202[/snapback]
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The crankcase is not a vacuum... but the intake is. The air is getting SUCKED into the engine. The hoses connected to the intake are also gettting that 'suck'.
The crankcase is not a vacuum... but the intake is. The air is getting SUCKED into the engine. The hoses connected to the intake are also gettting that 'suck'.
yep
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Thats right but when you block that hose off or attach it to a bypass valve instead of the crankcase vent no extra air is getting sucked in.
QUOTE(Doge @ Apr 27, 2006 - 4:30 PM) [snapback]427202[/snapback]
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The crankcase is not a vacuum... but the intake is. The air is getting SUCKED into the engine. The hoses connected to the intake are also gettting that 'suck'.
The crankcase is not a vacuum... but the intake is. The air is getting SUCKED into the engine. The hoses connected to the intake are also gettting that 'suck'.
Thats right but when you block that hose off or attach it to a bypass valve instead of the crankcase vent no extra air is getting sucked in.
What's your point? The PCV needs the vacuum or it will smoke like a chimney... there's nothing else to discuss.
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we are saying that the pcv system, needs the help of the air in the intake to work correctly. when you throw a breather on there, the pcv is not getting sucked out like it should.
QUOTE(Rjb23 @ Apr 27, 2006 - 4:13 PM) [snapback]427267[/snapback]
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Thats right but when you block that hose off or attach it to a bypass valve instead of the crankcase vent no extra air is getting sucked in.
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QUOTE(Doge @ Apr 27, 2006 - 4:30 PM) [snapback]427202[/snapback]
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The crankcase is not a vacuum... but the intake is. The air is getting SUCKED into the engine. The hoses connected to the intake are also gettting that 'suck'.
The crankcase is not a vacuum... but the intake is. The air is getting SUCKED into the engine. The hoses connected to the intake are also gettting that 'suck'.
Thats right but when you block that hose off or attach it to a bypass valve instead of the crankcase vent no extra air is getting sucked in.
we are saying that the pcv system, needs the help of the air in the intake to work correctly. when you throw a breather on there, the pcv is not getting sucked out like it should.
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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If you have the correct type of check valve, it is the best way to keep your crankcase under vacuum - of course, this really only works well on N/A carburated engines with no smog restrictions... (ie doesn't work on turbo cars or cars with an AFM or MAF)
On cars with an AFM or MAF, it is very important that the intake is a completely closed system - this includes the crankcase and any blow-by that comes out of the PCV system. This means no PCV breathers or anything like that.
-Charlie
QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Apr 26, 2006 - 7:31 PM) [snapback]426994[/snapback]
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I've never heard of plumbing your pcv to your exhaust before. Having hot expanding gases traveling into your crankcase is counter productive considering the nature of the PCV.
I've never heard of plumbing your pcv to your exhaust before. Having hot expanding gases traveling into your crankcase is counter productive considering the nature of the PCV.
If you have the correct type of check valve, it is the best way to keep your crankcase under vacuum - of course, this really only works well on N/A carburated engines with no smog restrictions... (ie doesn't work on turbo cars or cars with an AFM or MAF)
On cars with an AFM or MAF, it is very important that the intake is a completely closed system - this includes the crankcase and any blow-by that comes out of the PCV system. This means no PCV breathers or anything like that.
-Charlie
2003 Subaru WRX Wagon1989 Camry Alltrac LE 3S-GTE - SV25/ST205 hybrid1988 Camry Alltrac LE - BEAMS swap started
guys, some help on a problem?
Car runs crappy when its in vaccum, but runs fine under boost?
any ideas? i replaced rotor, and coil, cap i bought wouldnt allow for my aftermarket cables...timing is on 10tdc....(this is the same problem as stated bfore as misfire under low rpm's)
Car runs crappy when its in vaccum, but runs fine under boost?
any ideas? i replaced rotor, and coil, cap i bought wouldnt allow for my aftermarket cables...timing is on 10tdc....(this is the same problem as stated bfore as misfire under low rpm's)
can you tell us what "crappy" means?
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
the extreme case of misfire when I give it throttle until it hits boost:)
likes to try and turn off on me when moving from a stop..
likes to try and turn off on me when moving from a stop..