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Topic #32787 41 posts Started by darksecret
A while back I had made plans to do this and Kwanza hit me with a few questions that I had to look into such as the crossmember and steering system, well I checked around and the F-Body Camaro seemed to be a good candidate for parts without having to make all of my parts from scratch. Well long story short I picked up a Camaro a couple of weeks ago and also got a running (and smoking) RX-7 FB for good measure (and $400). The Camaro is in to good a shape to be tearing apart so I will use it as a measuring board and see what comes about. It might take me forever but the thing is getting done regardless if I stick to my original parts plan or not.
why not just use the ST205 rear end?
wouldn't you be a little closer then a camero?
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If they can take a Focus and put a 305 in it and make it rear drive, then you can do it to a Celica. What motor you going to use?

EDIT: I also seen this done to a Geo Storm. Probably a lot of cars out there this has been done too.

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Jan 17, 2006 - 10:02 PM

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a camaro? lol

all you need to do is swap over the trans and rear end from an alltrac. you dont need to change the steering or crossmemeber.

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Because isn't switching an AWD tranny over to RWD problematic (i've been out of the 6gc loop for a few months), besides i'm into that RWD mood i'm currently stripping the 7 down and slapping a 350 into it and i'm putting a supercharged 355 into the Camaro. The rear wouldn't be an issue, i've pretty much decided to use a lot of GT-Four parts and i'm sourcing a wrecked one now. I still have a while left since i'm working on a small budget but the use of GM parts will probably be a solution since they're cheap, pretty strong, and easy to find. I was wanting to use the Getrag but it looks like i'm not up to spending $6000 on a tranny so i'll either go with a T56 and keep power around 500 horses or just source a similar 6 speed. If someone thinks about flaming me over using GM material lets not forget our friends at Toyota decided to badge the Cavalier as a Toyota a while back so it's not like i'm throwing an SRT-4 motor in and using the RWD system from a 300ZX.
If you're in the mood for RWD, just drive the Camaro.

QUOTE (cjh4l22 @ May 15, 2009 - 4:02 AM)hey, nice mod does it come in hetero?Need parts?I'm parting out a '94 ST
you don't modify the AWD tranny?

you would use a different tranny(probably need to use a supra tranny...)
you can find one much cheaper then 6 grand

and the ST205 rear end you would need to make mounts for but your MUCH closer off with that then a camero.....
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If you're in the mood for RWD, just drive the Camaro.



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no offence, but i got 10bucks that says your project will not work out.

how good are you with welding and fabrication?

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I won't be doing the welding or fab, buddies at Project Auto Salon can help with the fab and my dad, uncle, and brother weld for a living. Yeah I would drive the Camaro but it's a boat, the 7 is more fun even though it's a third of the power. I've always said the Celica looks like a RWD car and it should have been one in the first place, i've got the tools, skill (or avalibility of skill), I kind of have the money (I can afford a little bit each week), and I got time. Seeing as the way the engine will sit the steering box will be right in the way, the distributor might also be in the way but thats an easy fix, the crossmember is certainly in the way, but that can be fixed, and the engine bay is narrow enough for the mounts. I did my homework on the Celica a while back and I have a couple of cars with similar measurements (7 looks small but under the hood it's another story). The big snag is finding a wrecked GT-Four, they go for pretty cheap but they're rare (around $3000-$5000 through junk dealers). Hey if a guy can cram a twin turbo V8 in a 5th gen I think a 3S wont be an issue.
hey a sixth gen celica rear wheel drive has been done already its got a 5sgte and is a pro drag racing car
But is it the stock chassis or a tube chassis, if it's tube it doesn't count.
Have you guys ever seen that show tuner transformation on speed channel. They put a Toyota truck's engine and dive train in a Toyota paseo.

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>If they can take a Focus and put a 305 in it and make it rear drive, then you can do it to a Celica. What motor you going to use?


My buddy has started a project where he is putting a ford 302 in his Zx3, so I think it can be done. Good luck with the swap

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You're talking about the HKS AT200 Celica aren't you, I thought it was FWD?

This post has been edited by darksecret: Jan 23, 2006 - 6:15 PM
no... he's talking about another car (not the HKS fwd) - the hard target motorsports car .... lemme get some pics biggrin.gif

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This post has been edited by celi_gt_racer: Jan 23, 2006 - 6:42 PM
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(Edit) ah nvm

This post has been edited by Predator: Jan 23, 2006 - 6:45 PM
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nope its a stock chassis



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no... he's talking about another car (not the HKS fwd) - the hard target motorsports car .... lemme get some pics biggrin.gif

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i love this car.....cept its not street legal at all...
You gotta ask yoursef... is it worth the $$? Wouldn't it be money better spent on another / new car?

Reason why I say this is from personal experience. My first creation was this. It could have had a 3S-GTE... but
1) it's damn expensive
2) you won't be able to recoup the costs when you sell the car
3) you may as well buy a new car for the money.

As with the Corolla, the Celica isn't exactly a high-model car - in fact it's Toyota's cheapest sports car. Is it really worth putting so much money, time, effort into an effectively entry-level car?

Just my 2c.

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Its definately the whole point of cars (for me that is) so everyone can see wat you have created.......is it easy to just "buy" a 250+ hp car and drive it ............YES! do i wanna do it............NO!!! why?????

1. love the feeling of ma celica is better than yours (faster or better lookin)
2.love to work on cars (have a project in life)
3.like above says and that it keeps me in mechanics and not on drugs and other stupid shyt
4.the celica is too damn sexy and wouldnt trade it for the world!!!!!!


i mean come one this is 6gc.net!!!!!!!!!!!!! read the title.................6 generation celica enthusiasts!!!
its a way of life........its passion

dont get me wrong theres lots of other beautiful cars out there, but the celica's ma baby

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Jan 23, 2006 - 10:07 PM
fair enough. It was my point too, until it became no longer worth it to work on the 'rolla.


Good luck with your job though, if you go ahead smile.gif indeed it will be unique. a REAL sports car, not a wannabe like the everyday Celicas wink.gif

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i like how you can look at the title

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hahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha lmfao shyt man i didnt see that...............crap man that sucks laugh.gif
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i like how you can look at the title

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and even miss spell it in BOLD

He's a mechanic, not a speller tongue.gif

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i mean come one this is 6gc.net!!!!!!!!!!!!! read the title.................6 generation celica enthusiasts!!!
its a way of life........its passion

dont get me wrong theres lots of other beautiful cars out there, but the celica's ma baby




So i have come back after a year to see how everyone is doing and this is the first thread i see. People still chasing wasted dreams. LOL laugh.gif Good luck dark in your quest. But again ill state what probably everyone else has said. Why did you buy an Fbody for this. I mean ok, maybe a V8 but thats wasted cash to do all this. You would have been alot better off sourcing the rear end from a GT4.

Anyway im not here to tell you what to do, because honestly i dont really care. again good luck on your quest.


And yeah, yungazzdriver, i dont know when you joined, cause frankly i dont remember you at all. But look up that special little word you have their and then think for a minute. This board has an average age of probably 18-19. Im going to stick with 18 cause well 3/4ths of the people on here still think 2F2F was the sh*t and majority of the people here still live their life a quarter mile at a time. Your word means they put some money into their car, not build a race team. Hell I cant think of a single person who is on here just because they have a race specific car and they are building it to be faster. wink.gif The only people you will find here are bodykit and rim lovers. With a few strewn out turbo drivers and a sh*t load of turbo dreamers.

Maybe i should have left my old ass of this forum for good.

hows it taste motha f*cka
hahahahahahaha watta funni one.................man this a funni guy (2fast2furious) man that one made me lauph..............whats wrong with lovin ma car??????? its a great hobby for me believe it or not it is to alot of people on here too so why dont u just not diss anyone like that on here again if you decide to stay on here if not we aint missin u hahahah................u know wat i read ur profile and uhm "cool black 6gc sticers" and uhm "drop in filter" yeah ..............HAH

This post has been edited by yungazzdriver: Jan 23, 2006 - 11:01 PM
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This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jan 23, 2006 - 11:00 PM

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hahahahahahaha watta funni one.................man this a funni guy (2fast2furious) man that one made me lauph..............whats wrong with lovin ma car??????? its a great hobby for me believe it or not it is to alot of people on here too so why dont u just not diss anyone like that on here again if you decide to stay on here if not we aint missin u hahahah................u know wat i read ur profile and uhm "cool black 6gc sticers" and uhm "drop in filter" yeah ..............HAH



hey moron, look at your own profile. Ill quote your bull**** "short ram intake-" jackass. come talk to me when you do something that takes skill.

look at mine again and you can clearly see it says Auto to manual conversion. I did that out of my garage. My father and I did that by hand. And by the way, you type like a 14 yearold. Let me guess, you are 16? Parents bought your car and everything for it. Or maybe you work at advanced auto? ( not dissing on you daniel)

Now im curious as to see what Kwanza wrote. Again, to back my 16 year old theory, can you even spell? "lauph" WTF is that? "lovin ma car" seriously wtf. i dont type like a ****ing moronic jackass. and this too "funni". I've got an idea for you, stay in school. Hopefully you can make it to college.

And again, dont quote something that isnt there. drop in filter doesnt exist anywhere on my profile. Here i will quote it for you "Cone Filter with A/F moved to piping behind filter". And the stickers, well your to young to understand where those came from. Ask anyone on this forum, majority of us have them. A forum member designed them and gave this community a way to show off their pride for the car, and their fellow 6gc members. You unfortunately are a piece of ****, and god willing I hope you make it to college.

and, coom and the mods. Im sorry if i posted a little out of hand. But im quite sick of little ****s that come on this forum and talk **** like they have done something. rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by Sev408: Jan 25, 2006 - 3:43 AM

hows it taste motha f*cka
Wow! this has gone way off the track.
Come on guys lets stop the fighting smile.gif

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