no, GB= group buy at a better price than what is available and what people are willing to pay. that is a gb
Here's my story - 6G Celicas Forums
i was asked to do a certain GB, which i didn't add money to, nor making anything out of, but it is known as my "best" GB, lol
sarcasm included, that GB ruined me, and many's opinion of me
*edit*: Cheapest price is Wholesale, btw
GB is just a group going for the same goal in order to drive down price.
i called Bulletproof on a GB for us, but they SUCK w/ GBs
runner gets like $12 off, everyone else gets $5-10 off they're already insanely "jdm" prices
This post has been edited by Consynx: Jan 16, 2006 - 5:26 PM
sarcasm included, that GB ruined me, and many's opinion of me
*edit*: Cheapest price is Wholesale, btw
GB is just a group going for the same goal in order to drive down price.
i called Bulletproof on a GB for us, but they SUCK w/ GBs
runner gets like $12 off, everyone else gets $5-10 off they're already insanely "jdm" prices
This post has been edited by Consynx: Jan 16, 2006 - 5:26 PM
ok
I will return one day.
I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER
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you must have missed the inhaler thread then
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I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER
I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER
you must have missed the inhaler thread then
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
when was this enhaler thread? cuz i've been around a quite along time... oops, this is just asking for a delete
the 1/4 doesnt have patience for a ST.... so we make them ST-T's so atleast we'll sound good going slow.
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yeah i misesd it apparently.. fill me in
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you must have missed the inhaler thread then
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I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER
I still have respect for u steve, and on a side note this is the quickest thread to grow EVER
you must have missed the inhaler thread then
yeah i misesd it apparently.. fill me in
this whole thing is stupid. Just let it go.
but since it is here I will give my opinion....
dustin15brown bought the lotus skirts knowing someone else really wanted them (not me). dustin15brown's reasoning (what he told me) was to either put them onto his new celica he would be getting in the summer and/or to send them to Romas to be reproduced. I told him about how much the skirts would cost to get shipped to Lithuania (I have shipped a few parts to Romas before) and I told him it would cost big $$. Romas is a busy guy, he has many other parts he is producing and these would take some time. He also said if there was no interest from a GB then he would sell them for the cost he got them.
So knowing he paid $225 for the skirts and the cost to send to Romas I told him that there was no way these were gonna be available to members at a reasonable price (under $300). Especially since the "dealer option" skirts are only $327.
So after all of this we find out he is making at least $30 on each set of skirts, that is at least $30 less that anyone who was interested in the GB could of paid for each set of skirts. At least $30 out of a members pocket to another...that IMO isn't right. "Community" and "members helping members" is not what that is all about in my book.
So, if you bought a keychain you paid $2 more than you should have. And if you were going to buy a set of lotus skirts, you would of paid at least $30 more than you should have. Just wrong...
This isn't the donate your hard earned $$ to someone overcharging you site. Rip people off on ebay, not here.
but since it is here I will give my opinion....
dustin15brown bought the lotus skirts knowing someone else really wanted them (not me). dustin15brown's reasoning (what he told me) was to either put them onto his new celica he would be getting in the summer and/or to send them to Romas to be reproduced. I told him about how much the skirts would cost to get shipped to Lithuania (I have shipped a few parts to Romas before) and I told him it would cost big $$. Romas is a busy guy, he has many other parts he is producing and these would take some time. He also said if there was no interest from a GB then he would sell them for the cost he got them.
So knowing he paid $225 for the skirts and the cost to send to Romas I told him that there was no way these were gonna be available to members at a reasonable price (under $300). Especially since the "dealer option" skirts are only $327.
So after all of this we find out he is making at least $30 on each set of skirts, that is at least $30 less that anyone who was interested in the GB could of paid for each set of skirts. At least $30 out of a members pocket to another...that IMO isn't right. "Community" and "members helping members" is not what that is all about in my book.
So, if you bought a keychain you paid $2 more than you should have. And if you were going to buy a set of lotus skirts, you would of paid at least $30 more than you should have. Just wrong...
This isn't the donate your hard earned $$ to someone overcharging you site. Rip people off on ebay, not here.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
do you just not thoroughly read things? I justified the extra expenses earlier, and they were reasonable. The keychain gb that you keep referring to wasn't me expecting money, it was someone else suggesting it, and I don't know of any who says "No, I do not want free money, esp since the keychain price isn't going to go up by you giving me a percentage"
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this whole thing is stupid. Just let it go.
this whole thing is stupid. Just let it go.
Buy my Celica $2,500 -http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=76562&st=0
do me Billy
you knew the expenses that were involved but you still went ahead and did it. You knew with your plan of buying these and selling replicas you would either
1 lose $$
or
2 you would over charge people to make your $$ back
you chose #2 and look where it got you. You knew from the start you were gonna overprice them and take extra $$ from every member...it's just wrong
GBs should be for helping everyone with the lowest price possible, not helping everyone with a low price and they give you $$ too.
just let this thing go. It is done and over.
1 lose $$
or
2 you would over charge people to make your $$ back
you chose #2 and look where it got you. You knew from the start you were gonna overprice them and take extra $$ from every member...it's just wrong
GBs should be for helping everyone with the lowest price possible, not helping everyone with a low price and they give you $$ too.
just let this thing go. It is done and over.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
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I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
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>and I don't know of any who says "No, I do not want free money, esp since the keychain price isn't going to go up by you giving me a percentage"
I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
I will return one day.
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which is most likely why i'm not in charge of it anymore, and that doesn't bother me
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I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
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>and I don't know of any who says "No, I do not want free money, esp since the keychain price isn't going to go up by you giving me a percentage"
I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
which is most likely why i'm not in charge of it anymore, and that doesn't bother me
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which is most likely why i'm not in charge of it anymore, and that doesn't bother me
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I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
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>and I don't know of any who says "No, I do not want free money, esp since the keychain price isn't going to go up by you giving me a percentage"
I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
which is most likely why i'm not in charge of it anymore, and that doesn't bother me
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
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uhh, get a high school education then come back and talk
Group buy is a way to sell multiple items for a discounted rate, the theory behind this being that instead of making more money per item with a gauranteed amount of sales you'll make money through quantity.
If group buys didn't mean profit they wouldn't exist. . plain and simple.
Dr.
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the idea behind GB's is to SAVE money, not for the person whos running it to make a profit.
the idea behind GB's is to SAVE money, not for the person whos running it to make a profit.
uhh, get a high school education then come back and talk
Group buy is a way to sell multiple items for a discounted rate, the theory behind this being that instead of making more money per item with a gauranteed amount of sales you'll make money through quantity.
If group buys didn't mean profit they wouldn't exist. . plain and simple.
Dr.
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Exactly.
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which is most likely why i'm not in charge of it anymore, and that doesn't bother me
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I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
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>and I don't know of any who says "No, I do not want free money, esp since the keychain price isn't going to go up by you giving me a percentage"
I offered to Do the keychain GB for free. Randy's work, Randy's money. Which means two dollars cheaper for everyone.
which is most likely why i'm not in charge of it anymore, and that doesn't bother me
Exactly.
I will return one day.
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point, set, match and game. Thanks man
QUOTE(drnovascotia @ Jan 17, 2006 - 12:38 AM) [snapback]379569[/snapback]
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uhh, get a high school education then come back and talk
Group buy is a way to sell multiple items for a discounted rate, the theory behind this being that instead of making more money per item with a gauranteed amount of sales you'll make money through quantity.
If group buys didn't mean profit they wouldn't exist. . plain and simple.
Dr.
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 16, 2006 - 9:32 PM) [snapback]379422[/snapback]
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the idea behind GB's is to SAVE money, not for the person whos running it to make a profit.
the idea behind GB's is to SAVE money, not for the person whos running it to make a profit.
uhh, get a high school education then come back and talk
Group buy is a way to sell multiple items for a discounted rate, the theory behind this being that instead of making more money per item with a gauranteed amount of sales you'll make money through quantity.
If group buys didn't mean profit they wouldn't exist. . plain and simple.
Dr.
point, set, match and game. Thanks man
Look, I still made you a keychain for free.
I offered .50c per unit then you pmed me again
and again I told you .50c per unit. And again same questions
as in the PM i posted last thread. So I offered you 1.50
then the dec 21 pm. I told you from the start 8.00
per keychain and yes I was cutting my own money
not jacking up the price. I have over 50 hrs programming
setting up and actual machining. To put it bluntly
I could have worked overtime the whole time I was working on these.
I could have made working for my boss gross over $1400.00 and
made him very happy instead of pissing him off with the whole
deal. So if you were not wanting more money why did you ask the same
question 5 times? I still have 10 hrs painting left. Maybe I should send the
Black with red letters to you to finish since I was never really for that anyway.
Do you do that to doggy, promise cf when you know he doesn't want to do it.
I was ready to give them away unfinished just to be done with you.
I offered .50c per unit then you pmed me again
and again I told you .50c per unit. And again same questions
as in the PM i posted last thread. So I offered you 1.50
then the dec 21 pm. I told you from the start 8.00
per keychain and yes I was cutting my own money
not jacking up the price. I have over 50 hrs programming
setting up and actual machining. To put it bluntly
I could have worked overtime the whole time I was working on these.
I could have made working for my boss gross over $1400.00 and
made him very happy instead of pissing him off with the whole
deal. So if you were not wanting more money why did you ask the same
question 5 times? I still have 10 hrs painting left. Maybe I should send the
Black with red letters to you to finish since I was never really for that anyway.
Do you do that to doggy, promise cf when you know he doesn't want to do it.
I was ready to give them away unfinished just to be done with you.
JDM guy made me do it.
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the point of group buys is NOT for a middleman from this site to make money, maybe i shoulda been a little more specific.
simple concept.
the company who MAKES the product makes money, not the person running the GB.
also,
if you wanna try and take personal stabs at me, thats cool, i have no problem with that..lol
its the internet, not highschool
This post has been edited by presure2: Jan 16, 2006 - 7:45 PM
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>uhh, get a high school education then come back and talk
Group buy is a way to sell multiple items for a discounted rate, the theory behind this being that instead of making more money per item with a gauranteed amount of sales you'll make money through quantity.
If group buys didn't mean profit they wouldn't exist. . plain and simple.
Dr.
Group buy is a way to sell multiple items for a discounted rate, the theory behind this being that instead of making more money per item with a gauranteed amount of sales you'll make money through quantity.
If group buys didn't mean profit they wouldn't exist. . plain and simple.
Dr.
the point of group buys is NOT for a middleman from this site to make money, maybe i shoulda been a little more specific.
simple concept.
the company who MAKES the product makes money, not the person running the GB.
also,
if you wanna try and take personal stabs at me, thats cool, i have no problem with that..lol
its the internet, not highschool
This post has been edited by presure2: Jan 16, 2006 - 7:45 PM
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
honestly, this is kind of retarded.
depending on the difficulty of the group purchase, not too many would run it for free.
I spend an average of about 20hrs a week on a GB before. making calls, answering PMs, calling people...
a lot of your guys have jobs, and have less time, but money
for those w/o jobs, they have no money but have time and can run a GB that they can't afford, is it not okay to have that exchange available to someone?
i'm not quite understanding all this.
there definately needs to be rules, and they need to be thought about, because w/e is made up can make or break future gbs
depending on the difficulty of the group purchase, not too many would run it for free.
I spend an average of about 20hrs a week on a GB before. making calls, answering PMs, calling people...
a lot of your guys have jobs, and have less time, but money
for those w/o jobs, they have no money but have time and can run a GB that they can't afford, is it not okay to have that exchange available to someone?
i'm not quite understanding all this.
there definately needs to be rules, and they need to be thought about, because w/e is made up can make or break future gbs
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QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Jan 16, 2006 - 7:43 PM) [snapback]379573[/snapback]
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Look, I still made you a keychain for free.
I offered .50c per unit then you pmed me again
and again I told you .50c per unit. And again same questions
as in the PM i posted last thread. So I offered you 1.50
then the dec 21 pm. I told you from the start 8.00
per keychain and yes I was cutting my own money
not jacking up the price. I have over 50 hrs programming
setting up and actual machining. To put it bluntly
I could have worked overtime the whole time I was working on these.
I could have made working for my boss gross over $1400.00 and
made him very happy instead of pissing him off with the whole
deal. So if you were not wanting more money why did you ask the same
question 5 times? I still have 10 hrs painting left. Maybe I should send the
Black with red letters to you to finish since I was never really for that anyway.
Do you do that to doggy, promise cf when you know he doesn't want to do it.
I was ready to give them away unfinished just to be done with you.
Look, I still made you a keychain for free.
I offered .50c per unit then you pmed me again
and again I told you .50c per unit. And again same questions
as in the PM i posted last thread. So I offered you 1.50
then the dec 21 pm. I told you from the start 8.00
per keychain and yes I was cutting my own money
not jacking up the price. I have over 50 hrs programming
setting up and actual machining. To put it bluntly
I could have worked overtime the whole time I was working on these.
I could have made working for my boss gross over $1400.00 and
made him very happy instead of pissing him off with the whole
deal. So if you were not wanting more money why did you ask the same
question 5 times? I still have 10 hrs painting left. Maybe I should send the
Black with red letters to you to finish since I was never really for that anyway.
Do you do that to doggy, promise cf when you know he doesn't want to do it.
I was ready to give them away unfinished just to be done with you.
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
there was a reason for pm'ing u multiple times asking teh same questions... because you never answered everything together, and I didn't want the price to be ADDED with the profit... I wasn't sure, but it's done. And yes I am this way with everyone... A bit overbearing to make sure that no details are spared, no mistakes are made. and yeah i told people romas could do cf even though he dind't like it... i told them it would cost a lot more also..
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Which we are currently working on. New rules should be out soon.
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i'm not quite understanding all this.
there definately needs to be rules, and they need to be thought about, because w/e is made up can make or break future gbs
i'm not quite understanding all this.
there definately needs to be rules, and they need to be thought about, because w/e is made up can make or break future gbs
Which we are currently working on. New rules should be out soon.
I will return one day.
Please, i'd take time on this.
If i had to take a guess at what they were now, i'd see only....4 people willing to run future GBs.
If i had to take a guess at what they were now, i'd see only....4 people willing to run future GBs.
what does ba-zing mean? anyone?
I hear ya Steve. That I dont want. Were trying to work out a better method.
I will return one day.
it's like pwned.
it's from Family Guy
it's from Family Guy
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What else did you need to know? Yes I cut the price now. I offered jeff
2.00 per unit to take it over. He preferred to pass the savings along.
What about sakara's gb, for agc.com? wanna see some PMs from that?
You and I are here for different reasons Plain and simple.
Oh agc they are not getting anything from me thanks to you.
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there was a reason for pm'ing u multiple times asking teh same questions... because you never answered everything together, and I didn't want the price to be ADDED with the profit... I wasn't sure, but it's done. And yes I am this way with everyone... A bit overbearing to make sure that no details are spared, no mistakes are made. and yeah i told people romas could do cf even though he dind't like it... i told them it would cost a lot more also..
there was a reason for pm'ing u multiple times asking teh same questions... because you never answered everything together, and I didn't want the price to be ADDED with the profit... I wasn't sure, but it's done. And yes I am this way with everyone... A bit overbearing to make sure that no details are spared, no mistakes are made. and yeah i told people romas could do cf even though he dind't like it... i told them it would cost a lot more also..
What else did you need to know? Yes I cut the price now. I offered jeff
2.00 per unit to take it over. He preferred to pass the savings along.
What about sakara's gb, for agc.com? wanna see some PMs from that?
You and I are here for different reasons Plain and simple.
Oh agc they are not getting anything from me thanks to you.
JDM guy made me do it.
I agree with steve... how the rules are set up with single handedly determing the success and future of gb's