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Topic #30184 19 posts Started by RbrtNdrws
Hello,
I was just wondering where I can get a good downpipe for doing my 3sgte swap. I've seen alot of crappy ones on ebay, but I want a quality one thats not too expensive. Can I order it from somewhere online?

My second question is this: I am planning on using the GT transmission with the 3sgte, and I want to know which clutch would be best for this application? If there is a place that it can be ordered from online, please let me know.

Thanks for all the help,
Rob
-RbrtNdrws+Oct 22, 2005 - 4:37 AM
QUOTE(RbrtNdrws @ Oct 22, 2005 - 4:37 AM)
Hello,
I was just wondering where I can get a good downpipe for doing my 3sgte swap.  I've seen alot of crappy ones on ebay, but I want a quality one thats not too expensive.  Can I order it from somewhere online?

My second question is this:  I am planning on using the GT transmission with the 3sgte, and I want to know which clutch would be best for this application?  If there is a place that it can be ordered from online, please let me know.

Thanks for all the help,
Rob
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Rob,

The last one I did we used a stock 5SFE clutch kit with a 3SGTE pressure plate. You can get them both from Toyota: www.toyotaandlexusparts.com I order from them all the time.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Oct 22, 2005 - 12:27 AM

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
i wouldnt recomend a 5sfe disk. my last clutch was fine at 10psi but started sliping when i turned up the boost and had to be replaced after about 6 moths.

try specclutch.com they can make you a 3sgte disk that will fit your 5sfe tranny. they also have the torque rating of what each clutch can hold, so u can pick based on your power goals.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
or try centerforce 5sfe friction and 3sgte pressure plate. I run dual friction in my setup, my friend's AWD talon at 15psi, and a 5.0 no slips and we drive hard everyday.

94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.
do not use centerforce... get a spec and be done. the 5sfe disc will never get a full surface contact of the 3s disc so leave it up to spec to do. well worth the $.

most of the swappers are using the cheap downpipe from ebay with good luck. ive rewelded mine just to be safe, make sure to use or make a support bracket and you'll be fine
Ok, where can I find a good online seller to get a Spec clutch? Also, all of those downpipes on ebay come with the manifold and downpipe. Should I just get that package and use the manifold included, or is the stock 3s manifold better..

Thanks,
Rob
i posted an address for the clutch.

dont get the manifold, just get the downpipe and make SURE it comes with a support bracket.

15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
thx lagos, yeah sorry i didnt see the link, but I do now >smile.gif>. I checked out their site, do you think that a stage 2 will be sufficient for the amount of torque this engine will be making? The torque capacity on a Stage 2 is 279.

Also, how do I go about ordering a 3sgte disk that will fit the 5s transmission? I entered my info on the site and looked at the available clutches for the 5sfe, but I dont know how to find the 3sgte disk.

Would I not be fine just using a 5sfe Spec Stg 2 clutch with a Fidanza flywheel?

Thx,
Rob

This post has been edited by RbrtNdrws: Oct 23, 2005 - 12:47 PM
279 is for the 5s disk. The 3s stage 2 is something like 420 lbs of torque. I have a stage 1 which is 390 lbs of torque in my car.
Yes, but I thought that I need the 5s clutch to work with the GT transmission. So what clutch do i need to buy?
Ok thx, so Spec Stage 3 Clutch for 5sfe is what i'm goin with i guess.
dont do that it wont fit. 5sfe friction disc with the 3sgte pressure plate (the plate that bolts to the flywheel) this is the only way its going to work.

94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.
I thought I could take the parts from the Spec and put the appropriate 3sgte parts to make it work.. Arrg lol.

Ok someone tell me everything I need to make the 5sfe transmission work with the 3sgte.. Which clutch parts from which engine..

Also, cant i use the pressure plate from the clip that I'm getting?

This post has been edited by RbrtNdrws: Oct 23, 2005 - 7:59 PM
-lagos+Oct 22, 2005 - 2:26 AM
QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 22, 2005 - 2:26 AM)
i wouldnt recomend a 5sfe disk. my last clutch was fine at 10psi but started sliping when i turned up the boost and had to be replaced after about 6 moths.

try specclutch.com they can make you a 3sgte disk that will fit your 5sfe tranny. they also have the torque rating of what each clutch can hold, so u can pick based on your power goals.
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-RbrtNdrws+Oct 23, 2005 - 7:57 PM
QUOTE(RbrtNdrws @ Oct 23, 2005 - 7:57 PM)
I thought I could take the parts from the Spec and put the appropriate 3sgte parts to make it work.. Arrg lol. 

Ok someone tell me everything I need to make the 5sfe transmission work with the 3sgte.. Which clutch parts from which engine..

Also, cant i use the pressure plate from the clip that I'm getting?
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Lagos answered it right there.

What you need:
3SGTE Flywheel
3SGTE Pressure plate
3SGTE Clutch disc with splines for 5SFE (custom made by spec)
5SFE throw out bearing

Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete...
Yes, but I dont understand how I go about getting a 3sgte disc with the splines. Do i have to call spec?
-RbrtNdrws+Oct 23, 2005 - 8:49 PM
QUOTE(RbrtNdrws @ Oct 23, 2005 - 8:49 PM)
Yes, but I dont understand how I go about getting a 3sgte disc with the splines.  Do i have to call spec?
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Yup.

Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete...
there's another way to do it.
this is what he wants to do i'm guessing
spec aint cheap. . .

i have both clutches, exedy
DG Performance had me buy THESE clutches for my swap, in which i was going to use a GT Tranny.
if you want em i'll let em go pretty damn cheap.
they're just takin up space ATM anyways.