RbrtNdrws

#1

Hello,
I was just wondering where I can get a good downpipe for doing my 3sgte swap. I've seen alot of crappy ones on ebay, but I want a quality one thats not too expensive. Can I order it from somewhere online?

My second question is this: I am planning on using the GT transmission with the 3sgte, and I want to know which clutch would be best for this application? If there is a place that it can be ordered from online, please let me know.

Thanks for all the help,
Rob

Dr_Tweak

#2

-RbrtNdrws+Oct 22, 2005 - 4:37 AM

QUOTE(RbrtNdrws @ Oct 22, 2005 - 4:37 AM)

Hello,
I was just wondering where I can get a good downpipe for doing my 3sgte swap.  I've seen alot of crappy ones on ebay, but I want a quality one thats not too expensive.  Can I order it from somewhere online?

My second question is this:  I am planning on using the GT transmission with the 3sgte, and I want to know which clutch would be best for this application?  If there is a place that it can be ordered from online, please let me know.

Thanks for all the help,
Rob
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Rob,

The last one I did we used a stock 5SFE clutch kit with a 3SGTE pressure plate. You can get them both from Toyota: www.toyotaandlexusparts.com I order from them all the time.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Oct 22, 2005 - 12:27 AM

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lagos

#3

i wouldnt recomend a 5sfe disk. my last clutch was fine at 10psi but started sliping when i turned up the boost and had to be replaced after about 6 moths.

try specclutch.com they can make you a 3sgte disk that will fit your 5sfe tranny. they also have the torque rating of what each clutch can hold, so u can pick based on your power goals.

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celicast3sgte

#4

or try centerforce 5sfe friction and 3sgte pressure plate. I run dual friction in my setup, my friend's AWD talon at 15psi, and a 5.0 no slips and we drive hard everyday.

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94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.

zipstrips

#5

do not use centerforce... get a spec and be done. the 5sfe disc will never get a full surface contact of the 3s disc so leave it up to spec to do. well worth the $.

most of the swappers are using the cheap downpipe from ebay with good luck. ive rewelded mine just to be safe, make sure to use or make a support bracket and you'll be fine

RbrtNdrws

#6

Ok, where can I find a good online seller to get a Spec clutch? Also, all of those downpipes on ebay come with the manifold and downpipe. Should I just get that package and use the manifold included, or is the stock 3s manifold better..

Thanks,
Rob

lagos

#7

i posted an address for the clutch.

dont get the manifold, just get the downpipe and make SURE it comes with a support bracket.

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RbrtNdrws

#8

thx lagos, yeah sorry i didnt see the link, but I do now >>. I checked out their site, do you think that a stage 2 will be sufficient for the amount of torque this engine will be making? The torque capacity on a Stage 2 is 279.

Also, how do I go about ordering a 3sgte disk that will fit the 5s transmission? I entered my info on the site and looked at the available clutches for the 5sfe, but I dont know how to find the 3sgte disk.

Would I not be fine just using a 5sfe Spec Stg 2 clutch with a Fidanza flywheel?

Thx,
Rob

This post has been edited by RbrtNdrws: Oct 23, 2005 - 12:47 PM

Rjb23

#9

279 is for the 5s disk. The 3s stage 2 is something like 420 lbs of torque. I have a stage 1 which is 390 lbs of torque in my car.

RbrtNdrws

#10

Yes, but I thought that I need the 5s clutch to work with the GT transmission. So what clutch do i need to buy?

Consynx

#11

you're right, you do

celicaspeed

#12

you need the 5sfe clutch!

RbrtNdrws

#13

Ok thx, so Spec Stage 3 Clutch for 5sfe is what i'm goin with i guess.

celicast3sgte

#14

dont do that it wont fit. 5sfe friction disc with the 3sgte pressure plate (the plate that bolts to the flywheel) this is the only way its going to work.

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RbrtNdrws

#15

I thought I could take the parts from the Spec and put the appropriate 3sgte parts to make it work.. Arrg lol.

Ok someone tell me everything I need to make the 5sfe transmission work with the 3sgte.. Which clutch parts from which engine..

Also, cant i use the pressure plate from the clip that I'm getting?

This post has been edited by RbrtNdrws: Oct 23, 2005 - 7:59 PM

WannabeGT4

#16

-lagos+Oct 22, 2005 - 2:26 AM

QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 22, 2005 - 2:26 AM)

i wouldnt recomend a 5sfe disk. my last clutch was fine at 10psi but started sliping when i turned up the boost and had to be replaced after about 6 moths.

try specclutch.com they can make you a 3sgte disk that will fit your 5sfe tranny. they also have the torque rating of what each clutch can hold, so u can pick based on your power goals.
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-RbrtNdrws+Oct 23, 2005 - 7:57 PM

QUOTE(RbrtNdrws @ Oct 23, 2005 - 7:57 PM)

I thought I could take the parts from the Spec and put the appropriate 3sgte parts to make it work.. Arrg lol. 

Ok someone tell me everything I need to make the 5sfe transmission work with the 3sgte.. Which clutch parts from which engine..

Also, cant i use the pressure plate from the clip that I'm getting?
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Lagos answered it right there.

What you need:
3SGTE Flywheel
3SGTE Pressure plate
3SGTE Clutch disc with splines for 5SFE (custom made by spec)
5SFE throw out bearing

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RbrtNdrws

#17

Yes, but I dont understand how I go about getting a 3sgte disc with the splines. Do i have to call spec?

WannabeGT4

#18

-RbrtNdrws+Oct 23, 2005 - 8:49 PM

QUOTE(RbrtNdrws @ Oct 23, 2005 - 8:49 PM)

Yes, but I dont understand how I go about getting a 3sgte disc with the splines.  Do i have to call spec?
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Yup.

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Consynx

#19

there's another way to do it.
this is what he wants to do i'm guessing
spec aint cheap. . .

i have both clutches, exedy
DG Performance had me buy THESE clutches for my swap, in which i was going to use a GT Tranny.
if you want em i'll let em go pretty damn cheap.
they're just takin up space ATM anyways.