for me it was between the Z06 and the Supra

i chose the supra because, of the two, it has a removable top

insurance is probably boat loads cheaper.

I would have to go for the Supra, it's tough because I like the Z06 and if it was the C6 I would go for it hands down, but the Supra is a great all around car, it has a modern yet classic style to it and obviously there isn't any stopping a 2JZ and the Getrag is probably the best non racing transmission ever made, even the T-56 in the Z06 can't compete with that. The RX-7 is a good choice but as others have mentioned it's unreliable, I don't care for a car that needs the motor rebuilt every 100,000 miles (unless I deem it necessary, with these cars I probably would) the R33, truthfully I don't know enough about it's characteristics, it's a good looking car but to sedan like for me. The Evo MR, mechanically it's sound, but I also drive a Lancer OZ that has an almost identical interior (with the exception of the steering wheel, seats, and shift knob)as the Evo and it is very cheap feeling.

Since I'm not seriously buying any of these cars right now and reliability wouldn't be my first concern so my choice would be the rx-7, definitely the drivers car of the bunch (minus maybe the evo) except the 7 has a timeless look to it.

did neone see the vid on streetfire of the 1520 hp supra? i mean its not the only privately owned supra to hit the 1000 hp mark... i really dont know how many tho.

-97sccelica+Jul 18, 2005 - 1:21 PM

The vetter comes targa.. alos the supra would def not be cheaper on insurance.

You guys would also want to concider repairs. Some of those cars you'll have to babie and work on all the time. id rather work on it when i want, not when the car needs me to. Also all cost. The mods of a vette would be much cheaper and more bang for the buck.

I'd take a z06 please, 405HP LS1 just sounds so nice. Cars can be made fast with just a few bolt ons and some nitrous. >>

Supra's are too played out in Florida and too many pricks drive them. I've met only a few Supra owners that were cool, the rest of the MKIVs think they are the hot ****, and now the MKIII owners are starting to think that too.

Domestic guys are funner to hang out with, import guys are too worried about talking **** about each others cars.

Just to clear up something here. The ZO6 is NOT available as a targa top. It's only available as an FRC (Fixed Roof Coupe). It would be THE bomb as a targa top though.

-Digndoug+Jul 18, 2005 - 1:32 PM


only normal vettes are available in targa. and you mean to tell me that a 10 to 12 year old car, with 320hp and 4 seats is gonna be more expensive to insure than a 1 to 5 year old 405hp two seater?

you're dreaming

also, mods for a corvette wont be any cheaper than for a supra. as for bang for the buck? maybe you dont have any first hand experience with the power gained from simple mods to a turbo car.

STI

simple mods can be done to a V8, and you'll see those gains as with a turbo car. To be truthful, depending on the turbo setup and the V8, you usually see better gains from a V8 then a turboed car.

-SlowCelica94+Jul 19, 2005 - 8:58 AM

yea, but everything on a z06 is pretty close to perfect performance wise. full exhaust nets some more power, but the main effect is a reduction in weight and better sound.

those z06 guys are high rollers, they buy superchargers, aftermarket heads, and all kinds of cams like average teens buy intakes and strut tower bars

the little stuff helps, but if i had a z06, i wouldnt waste my time and money, i would save up for a TT kit.

-97sccelica+Jul 19, 2005 - 1:31 PM

Actually, there's mounds of room for improvement in the C5 ZO6. The as cast LS6 heads in that car are great as installed, but will blow your mind when fully ported (talking at peak 320+ intake and 220+ exhaust CFM) as compare to the stock LS6 head being around 260/190 IIRC. The camshaft profile is just enough to give it a 405 flywheel HP rating, and is barely in the 2-teens duration with just a little over .500 lift. Pop in a 230's Intake and 240's Exhaust duration cam with around .600 lift and a set of ported heads and suddenly you find yourself making 500 REAR WHEEL horsepower. The exhaust is pretty optimized though, very little gains have been seen with the addition of aftermarket items. The LS6 is just a more well matched set of parts than the LS1 is, but there is tons of room for improvement.

Now the C6 ZO6........THAT THING is damn near perfect. The heads in that car, AS INSTALLED, flow 360intake and 240exhaust CFM at peak. That's about as good as it's gonna get there. Not to mention titanium valves for weight savings........that thing is sex realized as a motor.

-Fastbird+Jul 19, 2005 - 11:38 AM


That's the quote of the month. >>

The LS7 is the shizzit, but if Lingenfelter turbos that thing, that would mean for probably $130,000 you could get a 900hp Vette from the factory, insert Homer Simpson drool here > aaauuuggghhhh 900hp, lol.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Jul 19, 2005 - 3:04 PM

-darksecret+Jul 19, 2005 - 4:04 PM

LMAO, yeah, ain't that the truth.

-Fastbird+Jul 19, 2005 - 10:38 AM

thats exactly what i said, the motor can definately make a lot more power, but it takes heads, cam, forced induction, etc.

intake and exhaust wont cut it

sounds like way more $$$ to me as well...

This post has been edited by saleeka: Jul 20, 2005 - 1:33 AM

-97sccelica+Jul 19, 2005 - 11:44 PM

Actually, the LSx series of motors responds REALLY well to just a cam only, which in itself is a swap that on a budget can be performed for about $500-700 depending on components used. A buddy of mine whom has a 03 ZO6 recently put a mild 224/220 .575 lift cam with a 112* LSA into his car and his RWHP moved from about 350/350 up to 405 RWHP and 415 RWTQ. If that's not a cheap way to horsepower I don't know what is. Now granted, he's limited in what he does from this point, meaning he can't really do more to see big gains without the heads, blower, turbo, or nitrous, but I'm just using it as an example of what a cam can do.

supra or RX7, the rotary powered engine is probably the easiest engine 2 work on ever, and the supra, well, its a supra, need I say more? but if i had to pick a supra i would choose one from here http://www.suprastore.com/suprasforsale.html

thats tough, toss up between supra and rx-7, always wish i had a supra (celicas the next best thing >>) saw an rx-7 at bodyshop yesterday though and it was hot. supra wins though because im not a fan of the rotary engine sound.