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Topic #21831 309 posts Started by nik
Feb 25 2005

recieved
intake manifold w/ throttle body (small port)
stock cams gears (small port)
oem FPR
fuel rail (big port)

(( from Bee aka kwanza ))

big port head from a 4agze ebay

Feb 28 2005

i drop the head off at F-Tuning (local shop) to get the head pressure checked if good the head will get fully tuned new valve spring P&P etc.

sent money off to a MR2 member for a
AE101 LEVIN MAP/DLI 4AGZE 1992+ MAP/DLI engine wiring harness

also bought 440 cc 7mgte injectors
4ag AEM adjustable cam gears
talking to frotou about a custom manifold

Need to talk to the shop about what cams to use i'm thinking 256 intake 243 exhaust

March 1 2005

things a need to do
track down DLI coils and distributor
track down a 92+ levin Map ecu ( any help on this one will be a big help)

This post has been edited by nik: Mar 11, 2005 - 12:39 PM

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Hey nik... that manifold is smallport. I told you that eh... PM me...

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
-Kwanza26+Feb 28, 2005 - 2:34 PM
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Feb 28, 2005 - 2:34 PM)
Hey nik... that manifold is smallport.  I told you that eh... PM me...
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whats the air flow difference between the small and big manifolds i want as much flow as i could get

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
small port=more velocity less volume. the large port is less velocity and more volume..

However,,, I don't think the small port manifold will bolt up to the large port head....
UPDATE

March 3 2005
found a 3 gen 4agze map ecu on club4age.com
>biggrin.gif>


yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
this is what i want my motor to look like

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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-nik+Mar 7, 2005 - 4:08 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Mar 7, 2005 - 4:08 PM)
this is what i want my motor to look like

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nice AE. What kind of ignition is that tihing using? I see no distributor, is it using the miata units?
update: >biggrin.gif>

March 10 2005
3rd gen 4agze map ecu came in
cam covers came in

March 11 2005
just bought cams and one cover from Bee (kwanza)
and ordered a adpter plate from techno toys

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-trdevelopment+Mar 11, 2005 - 10:40 AM
QUOTE(trdevelopment @ Mar 11, 2005 - 10:40 AM)
nice. im doing a 4agte build so far got a 87 4age taking it apart this weekend.
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what are you doing for a manifold the only ones i found

jdm one rare about $1000+ship
jgstools log 260 shipped
HKS 250 shipped cast log
custom 700+
Frotuo will make his for 650-700+ ship


i've seen i few manifolds on club4age that were made from REVHARD b-series manifolds

i might buy a b-series cut it and weld a 4age jgstools flange to it.

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
well there is a company in canada doing 7ag conversions

7ag builders

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
update March 15 2005

i won some new 8.0:1 4agze pistons on ebay yesterday
Pictures

Also won a B-series turbo manifold and waste gate
(( its the same one that is in the AE86 pic i posted))

Plus a 4ag flange
Picture

>biggrin.gif> look out washington people if i get this motor done you'll see it at HIN this year >biggrin.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
wait, you are going to cut off the B-series flange and use the 4a flange... That's a great, cheap alternative. >wink.gif>. Do you have a web page where they have done this?

-FallenHero+Mar 15, 2005 - 1:33 PM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 15, 2005 - 1:33 PM)
wait, you are going to cut off the B-series flange and use the 4a flange...  That's a great, cheap alternative. >wink.gif>.  Do you have a web page where they have done this?
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you see the picture a few post up that AE86 has a revhard B-series manifold i got the idea from a few guys on club4age.com search in fun talk and type "another turbo 4ag" or turbo 4ag or search the member cluboldschool

another guy using the cut b-series mani
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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-FallenHero+Mar 7, 2005 - 8:19 PM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 7, 2005 - 8:19 PM)
-nik+Mar 7, 2005 - 4:08 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Mar 7, 2005 - 4:08 PM)
this is what i want my motor to look like

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From club4age

INTAKE SPECS...

Revhard Honda B Series Intake Manifold, Modified Flange and Throttle Body Inlet.

70mm RPM Billet Throttle Body.


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SPECS.....

Engine: 4AGZ Head and Block
Engine Management: AUTRONIC SMC
Ignition: 4 Channel CDI/DIS
Ignition Coils : GSXR 1100
Fuel Pump: Twin Turbo Supra (intank)
Injectors: Seimens 60lbs.
Turbo: Turbonetics V-trim
Intake: Redtop Runners with custom Plenum
Header : Revhard
Intercooler/Piping: Revhard
Wastegate: Tial 38mm
Blow Off : HKS
Exhaust: Custom 3" to a 3.5" Muffler

Future Mods: Koyo Radiators, Fidanza Cam Gears, 20V ITB's, Tilton Master Cylinder (under dash), Paradise Racing Coilover kit, Piper Cams, Garrett GT3071 Turbo, etc





yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
nice. that's what I like to see. Outside the box thinking. Althought... i would probably go with a built in waste gate... I don't know how to work with those pictured. >wink.gif>
-FallenHero+Mar 16, 2005 - 8:38 PM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 16, 2005 - 8:38 PM)
nice.  that's what I like to see.  Outside the box thinking.  Althought... i would probably go with a built in waste gate... I don't know how to work with those pictured. >wink.gif>
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for big power i was told by the shop to go external >tongue.gif> i just got some more parts i'll have to take a few pics of what i have and get them on here >wink.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
hey, if it works for you that rocks. I just want to see how the Bseries manifold works... and how close it would be to fitting if you didn't change the flange.
Nik, if ya going with the same Exhaust Mani, be prepared to loose your radiator, cut the hole in the hood and etc......

There is NO ROOM at all for somthing like this.... Then i builded my header, i got into these problems.... whats why i didnt go with the equal lenght pipes... Cuz there is no place at all......


-nik+Mar 15, 2005 - 11:12 AM
QUOTE(nik @ Mar 15, 2005 - 11:12 AM)
update March 15 2005

i won some new 8.0:1 4agze pistons on ebay yesterday
Pictures

Also won a B-series turbo manifold and waste gate
(( its the same one that is in the AE86 pic i posted))

Plus a 4ag flange
Picture

>biggrin.gif>  look out washington people if i get this motor done you'll see it at HIN this year  >biggrin.gif>
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Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...Full custom Projects from restoration to performance builds<<<<<< DCw / JDMart >>>>>>>
-nik+Mar 11, 2005 - 10:21 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Mar 11, 2005 - 10:21 PM)
-trdevelopment+Mar 11, 2005 - 10:40 AM
QUOTE(trdevelopment @ Mar 11, 2005 - 10:40 AM)
nice. im doing a 4agte build so far got a 87 4age taking it apart this weekend.
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what are you doing for a manifold the only ones i found

jdm one rare about $1000+ship
jgstools log 260 shipped
HKS 250 shipped cast log
custom 700+
Frotuo will make his for 650-700+ ship


i've seen i few manifolds on club4age that were made from REVHARD b-series manifolds

i might buy a b-series cut it and weld a 4age jgstools flange to it.
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im talkin to the guy on 4agte.com hes got a turbo 4agte and im gonna see if he can weld me a mani for the celi.
-FallenHero+Mar 17, 2005 - 12:55 PM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ Mar 17, 2005 - 12:55 PM)
hey, if it works for you that rocks.  I just want to see how the Bseries manifold works... and how close it would be to fitting if you didn't change the flange.
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this is what it looks like the turbo will stay in the same place down low the guys with the AR86 cut and turned the mani up im no doing that no room like you said
oh and congrats on the mod thing >biggrin.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Picture from inside TEAM 66

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this is the bigport 4agze head before it went to the shop for a rebuild and stage2 p&p and other goodies

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here you can see the intake mani, turbo mani, fuel rail, 4ag flange and the 8.0:1 pistons on the far left

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here you can see my 38mm wastegate, Ecu, and the far left some stock 4agze 8.9:1 pistons with rods

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close up of the manifold

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close up of the wastegate and new pistons with rings (red box)

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close up of the 4agze rods and pistons

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this is probably the hardest thing to find a 3rd gen 4agze map ECU from a AE101 92+


for more just click the link up top >biggrin.gif>

This post has been edited by nik: Mar 28, 2005 - 11:12 AM

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
update

April 2 2005

went and bought a block with head off another memeber in Spokane for $50

April 4 2005

i got most of the block apart


yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
>biggrin.gif> update
april 14 2005

i got the block all torn apart and took it to the shop to be cleaned and .05 bore along with the crank so it could preped ,and balanced with my 4agze pistons still waiting on rods

sold my turbo kit to a member on here so i'll have the money to finish my project mostly

This post has been edited by nik: Apr 14, 2005 - 12:34 PM

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
how much is the bore costing you?

and isn't that a b series manifold?
hows the fit against the head?
-playr158+Apr 14, 2005 - 8:48 AM
QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 14, 2005 - 8:48 AM)
how much is the bore costing you?

and isn't that a b series manifold?
hows the fit against the head?
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not much gotta love the hook ups >biggrin.gif>

yeah its a b-series that i cut then one of the guys there welded to the flange after setting it on the head and taking measurements for clearance in the engine bay
i did the b-series because the holes line up about 95% to my 4ag exhaust flange i have a pic i'll have to post a bunch today.

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
oh gotcha used the pipes but cut them off and used a stock 4ag flange

i see even your exhaust manifold is hybrid hahaha

ewww hond parts in a yota ! ANARCHI
-playr158+Apr 14, 2005 - 9:24 AM
QUOTE(playr158 @ Apr 14, 2005 - 9:24 AM)
oh gotcha used the pipes but cut them off and used a stock 4ag flange

i see even your exhaust manifold is hybrid hahaha

ewww hond parts in a yota ! ANARCHI
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>biggrin.gif> not anarchy but Genius honda parts are cheaper than toyota parts and the manifold is Stainless steel with renforcement + its hard to find a 4age turbo manifold beside hks and jgtsool which are both log style manifolds. So as you sadi and hybrid manifold for a hybrid motor >wink.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
I'm going in today for an update on everything.

as for the turbo how about a t3 t4 hybrid for thr hybrid >wink.gif>

i'm ordering the arp bolts mains studs rods etc today

the con rods crower said a 10 week wait on the custom ones
the shops owner said his contact had a set of 4340 cromoly rods for a good price so hopefully i can get those.


yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
update

my rod got sent out to have custom ones made i though they were going to send out the measurements so again sorry Doggy

I'm looking up to 8 weeks for rods

head is finished and the block is started
going to run into a few problems i have no cam card so timing will be a issue
it will get worked out on the dyno

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Hey nik, how close are the runners on that B-series manifold to matching up with a 7AFE/4AFE head? I'm doing a 4AFTE, currently planning on using a Jgstools manifold, but would love to have a manifold like that. I know the 4AFE and 7AFE exhaust ports are the same size & location, so could you possibly check it against a 7AFE head for me?