I dont want to do a 3S swap. I want to do everything myself, and Im very inclined to do so. I cant handle the wiring and extra stuff that a 3S would take so please, I ask that swappers leave their opinions out of this topic unless helpful.
This winter is nicknamed "Celica overhaul"
Im going to do everything I possibly can to my Celica which means a built 5S.
I know Race Motorsports makes 8.5 turbo pistons for the 5S but I'm more or less looking for a completely ported and polish, 100% done 5S block. I did a search for it once and someone posted a great link but I cant find it anymore. Any help would be great. Thanks guys.
You'd only lower compression if you want to turbo the car (but it sounds like you know that as you refered to it as "turbo pistons") increased compression is the way to go.. I'm also very interested in what gets said in this topic. I believe the link you are referring to links to a company that sells built up 5sfe short blocks.
yea, thats the link I found in the search forum
one problem though... 10.5!!! ouch for a turbo guy.
Otherwise this sounded great. I'm wondering if they'd put the Race Engineering pistons in at the same price???
But if I got that... you add Web Cams (est 30 crank HP increase since the cams are 22* apart ... sh.tty econ design), add a nice intake, a free flow exhaust, underdrive pulley, alum flywheel, nice plugs and wires, upgrade ignition, and what not and we all might be close too a CRANK 200 N/A HP. w00t!!! Slap a turbo on that b.tch and kiss some v8's goodbye.
-turboinduction+Jul 12, 2004 - 12:37 PM
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1b... I said crank HP not wheels. But that engine is quoted at 155 crank. And everyone with webcams along with Jim Snodgrass said that they add about 30 because of the crappy econ design of the engine. Well adding, thats 185. I'm assuming with all the others mods I listed, they could be around 15 which is a 200 N/A CRANK. Now, i'm a realistic person. Intake doesn't at 20Hp, nor does exhaust. But I dont see 200 N/A crank power being that impossible.
And then 1b.... do your turbo kit how-to and BAM... cant wait to see those numbers.
Edit1: PITA? sorry, never heard of this term
Edit2: I looked on Jims site, the stuff I said moreorless is what he did. So this setup will probably yeild 130-150WHP.
Project ST204.5 99.88946% complete...
.. A lot of the NA 5sfe Mr2 guys are getting their 5sfe's to put out way more than 150
anybody else know of any good 5sfe builder sites???
www.raceeng.com for pistons (those 8.5 turbo ones I said eariler)
Edit: I'd like valves but I dont wanna pay loads for em'
keep those sites coming
This post has been edited by turboinduction: Jul 12, 2004 - 4:40 PM
You know what'd funny? You can do all this and hit 200crankhp, and I'll still beat you by spraying.
Anways- I do really respect what you're trying to do, and now you've got me looking into this. You could prove me and others wrong, that the 5S isn't just a another econ motor.
I'd also like to see a lay out, of product and pricing and hp gains. How much do you have to spend? How much do u think this'll cost?
As always, NAWS!
NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold10th anniv RX-7 - RIPThe Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing.Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!"
*shrug* personal preference Slow. I'd rather always have the power there- even if I'm out of NAWZ
Well, the setup on the website is good for 155hp. That's only 20 more then stock. So you wanna pay $1,400 for 20+ more hp? You it'll be even more then that once throw in gaskets and seals and fuilds n junk.
But on the up-side, it's like a new motor, so it's like your celica is born again.
What's maged and shot-peened?
You'd still need (or use the stock) crank, cams, vaules, vaule springs, and what else major?
NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold10th anniv RX-7 - RIPThe Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing.Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!"
-SlowCelica94+Jul 12, 2004 - 10:06 PM
-turboinduction+Jul 12, 2004 - 10:20 PM
-shid+Jul 12, 2004 - 11:49 PM
&(*@ I thought that was my alarm button!!!
sorry i was thinking NA didnt see the turbo part
-chucho+Jul 13, 2004 - 2:52 AM
-turboinduction+Jul 12, 2004 - 1:09 PM
the perfomance block guys sent me this.
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those are the ones I was talking about earlier
Wiesco Pistons
XT-532P875 TOYOTA 5SFE PISTON:87.5mm/8.5:1 $449 SET
XT-532P87 TOYOTA 5SFE PISTON:87mm/8.5:1 $449 SET
CP Pistons
XTP-532P875 TOYOTA 5SFE PISTON:87.5mm/8.5:1 $449 SET
This post has been edited by turboinduction: Jul 13, 2004 - 8:27 AM
Uhhh... any 3sgte exhaust manifold bolts on.. thats what i keep hearing.
Keep it coming people. This is really interesting. Even I'm considering building a 5S now (nitrous built, hehee) and I hate the 5S.
It's be neat to see some built 5S's out performening 3s's
NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold10th anniv RX-7 - RIPThe Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing.Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!"
-x_itchy_b_x+Jul 13, 2004 - 3:26 AM
1bwilson your the man. actaully i already have 440's i bought them while trying to get the 7mge's ones. the clip needs to be modified. big deal. thank though. i wanna have a mean 5sfte. like low 13's high 12's is the goal. some with enuf saving and money.
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-shid+Jul 13, 2004 - 5:06 PM
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