Hello,

A beautiful 1997 blue 5sp celica has caught my eye and I will be looking at it tomorrow. From what ive seen and read it is in immaculate condition but I want to see it first before I think about buying it. This will be my first car that I will be buying. >> If/When I get it I will be sure to post some pictures. Hehe, Im so excited! WEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Sounds like a nice car! >>

Is it a GT or ST? And how much?....

Hehe, thats the thing. The ad doesn't say if it is an ST or GT it just says "1997 TOYOTA Celica, 5sp, low mileage, neon blue, fully loaded, pw, pm, pdl, cruise, a/c, CD changer, spoiler, chrome rimes, tint, new tires, inspection report, no accidents, immac. cond." So I am going to find out tomorrow. It is $12,400 CAD if that helps on whether or not it is a GT/ST. Although, it wont matter to me whether or not it is a GT or ST because I will not be racing.

-CaptainAmazing+May 14, 2004 - 11:32 PM

power....meter??? lol

do you got the vin for it? how many milies on it?

omg that one ? thats a good deal man i would trade in my celica for that one
http://www.buysell.com/showad.asp?id=26424540
man u should really get it i know i would if i can sell my celica for that one

I think pm is power mirrors...mine has that.

From that ad pic, it looks to me like a Coupe with a two post spoiler. It probably is an ST because it doesn't have fog lights. Those are just my guesses from the one pic, but if they're right, that price might be a little high...so I'd definately try to talk it down.

Edit: didn't mean to sound negative...thats a cool color and would be a great car either way.

This post has been edited by celicaman96: May 15, 2004 - 2:41 AM

Ya, thats the one. Is there really a big difference between an ST and GT? Can you feel the 40hp difference a lot? and would I even need the GT if I wasnt going to race it or anything? I found some other Celicas that are from 1995 and they are GT's for about $10,000CAD but they just dont look as clean. Thanks for the help >>

I think really its more like a 30 hp difference isnt it? st's had something like 115 crank, and gt 135?

correction, st's got 110 at the crank for 94 / 95, all others got 105. Gt's got 135 to the crank unless u got the california emission restricted one which is 130.

you can out speed a few things with an ST :

geo metro
parked cars
any car made previous to 1940
people on pedal bikes
small children


This post has been edited by sinner96ST: May 15, 2004 - 11:03 AM

12400? Thats not a good deal for a couple guys. For a vert it's acceptable- but verts add on 4k to the price! Unless this car has like, 20k miles on it.

So are you guys suggesting I skip the ST and just get a GT?

if you can find a GT, you're much more the better.

either way, the car is fun to drive, it's not really popular for it's speed. the head design is meant for fuel economy, not for racing or high revving.

with a GT you could easily swap in a 3SGTE which is a turbo'd toyota motor with about 225hp and enough kick to last you a life time.

with a ST, a little extra work is involved to get the engine in there.. but it is still very possible. or, you can use a 160(roughly)hp 4AG(Z)E supercharged toyota motor.

so, the only true way to put down some bad assed power with our cars is to usually swap the engine out. very costly to build up our engines in stock form, and some people will argue that it's not worth the effort.

if you want to BS about the 6gc, hit me up on aim as sinner0423 or yahoo with the same name.. i've owned the car for about a year and i can tell you some stuff about it.

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: May 15, 2004 - 11:16 AM

-sinner96ST+May 15, 2004 - 12:01 PM

I was really picky on finding my celica

To me, that isnt worth it because its a coupe (no offense coupe people, i just like hatchbacks better) I dont like the color, and its too expensive.

If you look around for a while you can find a celi with all theo ptions you want, the price, and the color >>

Well I settled on the color by getting teal but I love it now >>

-aaronc222+May 15, 2004 - 9:25 AM

coupes are sweet!

man i just realized it is a coupe when i look at the pic again...
and i think u might want a gt instead cuz it feels really crappy with a nice car that cant go...

and make sure you get a coupe if you want better handling

or a hatch for better looks

-shid+May 15, 2004 - 9:04 AM

I know it's a 97, but doesn't that spoiler look like a 94-95 ?

how does a hatch not handle as well as a coupe

yeah, i don't think there is any difference in hatch vs coupe in handling. if anything, i believe the coupe is maybe a few inches longer than the hatchback. not sure about weight tho.

dunno if any of you coupe owners have been in a hatchback, but i can guarantee we both agree on the fact that our back seats have little to no purpose. there is not that much of a difference between them.

I saw that someone posted that coupes dont look as good as h/b's and that the coupe wasnt clean. Take a gander at mine, i think its very clean. Also mine is a GT and it doesnt have fog lights. Handling wise it does still handle very well but you can feel its a kinda big car. I have tower braces in the front and rear and the help, but going from the stock wheels to my 17s made the car ALOT stiffer. I had a prelude with 4 wheel steering before my celi and the prelude handled alot better. As for the performance on my GT coupe i think its great, i would not get an ST even if you dont race. Its just always nice to have the power. I have taken a 7th gen celica GT-S with mine but they must have had an auto because they do have more power. Civics and neons are a joke cause there engines are so small. Its always funny when you are at a light and someone in a "Pimped out" civic pulls up next to you thinking they are all cool. Then i smoke them with my stock GT celi. Preludes and GTI's with the VR6 probably will still beat you. A normal 2.0 gti is easily beaten, i have yet to race a 1.8T though. So you go for the GT but coupe or hb is sweet.

This post has been edited by MyToyCeli: May 16, 2004 - 1:15 PM